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Post by lordroel on Jul 29, 2019 15:34:35 GMT
Thanks for the tip, also i have this: Royal Netherlands East Indies Air Force
The Royal Netherlands East Indies Air Force (Dutch: Koninklijk Nederlands-Indisch Luchtmacht) is the military aviation branch of the Netherlands East Indies Armed Forces. It was founded in 1915 as the "Test Flight Service" (Proefvliegafdeling-KNIL, PVA-KNIL). In 1921 it became the "Aviation Service" (Luchtvaartafdeling-KNIL, LA-KNIL), before finally becoming the Royal Netherlands East Indies Air Force on February 19th 1941. All four Vliegtuiggroepen (fighter groups), one Verkenningsgroep (reconnaissance group), one Opleidinggroep (training group), one AEWACS-groep (AEWACS-group) and one Tranportgroep (transport group) which make up the Royal Netherlands East Indies Air Force have their main bases located on the island of Java but Afdelingen (English: squadrons) also operated from several airfields spread across the Netherlands East Indies. VliegtuiggroepI Vliegtuiggroep based out of Andir airfield, Bandoeng - Java
1e Afdeling (1-VLG-I) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 2e Afdeling (2-VLG-I) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. II Vliegtuiggroep based out of at Singosari airfield, Malang - Java
1e Afdeling (1-VLG-II) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. IIIe Vliegtuiggroep (VLG-III) at Tjililitan airfield, Batavia - Java
1e Afdeling (1-VLG-III) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 2e Afdeling (2-VLG-III equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 3e Afdeling (3-VLG-III) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. IVe Vliegtuiggroep (VLG-IV) at Maospati airfield, Madioen - Java
1e Afdeling (1-VLG-IV) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 2e Afdeling (2-VLG-IV) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 3e Afdeling (3-VLG-IV) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. Ve Vliegtuiggroep (VLG-V) based at Semplak airfield, Buitenzorg - Java
1e Afdeling (1-VLG-V) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 2e Afdeling (2-VLG-V) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. 3e Afdeling (3-VLG-V) equipped with 13 Fokker D-24I Tornado Jet fighters. VerkenningsgroepVerkenningsafdeling 1 (VkA-1) at Tjikembar airfield - Java
10 Fokker D-24R (Reconnaissance version) Tornado Jet fighters. Verkenningsafdeling 2 (VkA-2) at Djokjakarta - Java
10 Fokker D-24R (Reconnaissance version) Tornado Jet fighters. Verkenningsafdeling 3 (VkA-3) at Kalidjati airfield - Java
10 Fokker D-24R (Reconnaissance version) Tornado Jet fighters. Verkenningsafdeling 4 (VkA-4) at Kalidjati airfield - Java
10 Fokker D-24R (Reconnaissance version) Tornado Jet fighters. OpleidinggroepFlight School at Kalidjati airfield, near Soebang – Java
26 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (successor to the Fokker S-11 Instructor single engine two seater propeller aircraft, also operated by the Royal Netherlands Air force). Flight School at Singosari airfield, Malang - Java
26 Fokker D-24R (operational trainer) Tornado Jet fighters. AEWACS-groep
AEWACS afdeling 1 (AEWACS Squadron 1) at Kalidjati airfield - Java 6 Fokker F34 Sentinel (used for border patrol and fitted with side-looking radar beneath the fuselage) and 8 Fokker F38 Eagle Eyes (airborne early warning aircraft). Tranportgroep
Tansportsafdeling 1 (TA-1) at Tjililitan airfield, Batavia - Java
15 Fokker F34 Troopships. Tansportsafdeling 2 (TA-2) at Tjililitan airfield, Batavia - Java
9 Lockheed C-130 Hercules (entered into service in 1960).gr Is there a particular reason II Vliegtuiggroep has only one squardon and I Vliegtuiggroep has two while the remaining fighter groups all have three? I took it of from this site: Dutch Air Force Order of Battle in the Dutch East Indies, 30 November 1941, so i think they just stayed the same over a period of 40 years, ore should we add one ore two squadrons. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 29, 2019 15:44:53 GMT
No military stays the same for fourty years, especially not during the Cold War. I think it would be designed around a very defensive role, focusing on interceptors, anti-missile and anti-shipping warfare to best fight back against a potential Japanese invasion. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 29, 2019 16:03:18 GMT
No military stays the same for fourty years, especially not during the Cold War. I think it would be designed around a very defensive role, focusing on interceptors, anti-missile and anti-shipping warfare to best fight back against a potential Japanese invasion. True to that, did not think that much when i created the orbat. So what about this then. Royal Netherlands Air Force of 1982
These are the squadrons flying the aircraft and helicopters belonging to the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF, Koninklijke Luchtmacht, KLu), not mention are the supporting squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force
Fighter Squadrons and Reconnaissance Squadrons
No. 306 Reconnaissance Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission). No. 311 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters (Trained in Mark-3 spatial torpedoes delivery). No. 312 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 313 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 314 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 315 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 316 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 322 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 323 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 324 Fighter/Bomber Squadron -Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 325 Reconnaissance Squadron - Soesterberg, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission) Training Squadrons
No. 130 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 131 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 132 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Jet Pilot Training) No. 133 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Tactical Training Evaluation Standardization) Transport Squadrons and Surveillance Squadrons
No. 334 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 10 Fokker F34 Troopships No. 336 Surveillance and AWACS Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 3 Fokker F34 Sentinel and 6 Fokker F38 Eagle Eyes No. 338 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 2 Fokker F38 Royal Flights Helicopter Squadrons
No. 298 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 299 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Combat Falcon attack helicopters No. 300 Helicopter Squadron Royal Flight - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 4 KH-3B Falcon helicopters (VIP transport version) No. 301 Helicopter Squadron - Deelen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 302 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3D Falcon (medical evacuation version) No. 303 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3LR Falcon helicopters (land search and rescue version) |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 29, 2019 16:04:45 GMT
No military stays the same for fourty years, especially not during the Cold War. I think it would be designed around a very defensive role, focusing on interceptors, anti-missile and anti-shipping warfare to best fight back against a potential Japanese invasion. True to that, did not think that much when i created the orbat. So what about this then. Royal Netherlands Air Force of 1982
These are the squadrons flying the aircraft and helicopters belonging to the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF, Koninklijke Luchtmacht, KLu), not mention are the supporting squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force
Fighter Squadrons and Reconnaissance Squadrons
No. 306 Reconnaissance Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission). No. 311 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters (Trained in Mark-3 spatial torpedoes delivery). No. 312 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 313 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 314 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 315 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 316 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 322 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 323 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 324 Fighter/Bomber Squadron -Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 325 Reconnaissance Squadron - Soesterberg, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission) Training Squadrons
No. 130 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 131 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 132 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Jet Pilot Training) No. 133 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Tactical Training Evaluation Standardization) Transport Squadrons and Surveillance Squadrons
No. 334 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 10 Fokker F34 Troopships No. 336 Surveillance and AWACS Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 3 Fokker F34 Sentinel and 6 Fokker F38 Eagle Eyes No. 338 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 2 Fokker F38 Royal Flights Helicopter Squadrons
No. 298 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 299 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Combat Falcon attack helicopters No. 300 Helicopter Squadron Royal Flight - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 4 KH-3B Falcon helicopters (VIP transport version) No. 301 Helicopter Squadron - Deelen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 302 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3D Falcon (medical evacuation version) No. 303 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3LR Falcon helicopters (land search and rescue version) That looks fine. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 29, 2019 16:06:42 GMT
True to that, did not think that much when i created the orbat. So what about this then. Royal Netherlands Air Force of 1982
These are the squadrons flying the aircraft and helicopters belonging to the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF, Koninklijke Luchtmacht, KLu), not mention are the supporting squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Squadrons of the Royal Netherlands Air Force
Fighter Squadrons and Reconnaissance Squadrons
No. 306 Reconnaissance Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission). No. 311 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters (Trained in Mark-3 spatial torpedoes delivery). No. 312 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Volkel, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 313 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 314 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 315 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Twenthe, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 316 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 322 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 323 Fighter/Bomber Squadron - Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 324 Fighter/Bomber Squadron -Leeuwarden, NL: 20 Fokker D-24I M.3 jet fighters No. 325 Reconnaissance Squadron - Soesterberg, NL: 20 Fokker D-24R M.3 jet fighters (Recon mission) Training Squadrons
No. 130 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 131 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 12 Fokker S-15 Instructor IIs (Initial Military Flight Training) No. 132 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Jet Pilot Training) No. 133 Training Squadron - Woensdrecht, NL: 20 Fokker D-24T M.3 jet fighters (Tactical Training Evaluation Standardization) Transport Squadrons and Surveillance Squadrons
No. 334 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 10 Fokker F34 Troopships No. 336 Surveillance and AWACS Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 3 Fokker F34 Sentinel and 6 Fokker F38 Eagle Eyes No. 338 Transport Squadron - Eindhoven, NL: 2 Fokker F38 Royal Flights Helicopter Squadrons
No. 298 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 299 Helicopter Squadron -Gilze-Rijen, NL: 30 KH-3 Combat Falcon attack helicopters No. 300 Helicopter Squadron Royal Flight - Gilze-Rijen, NL: 4 KH-3B Falcon helicopters (VIP transport version) No. 301 Helicopter Squadron - Deelen, NL: 30 KH-3 Falcon helicopters No. 302 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3D Falcon (medical evacuation version) No. 303 Helicopter Squadrons - Deelen, NL: 6 KH-3LR Falcon helicopters (land search and rescue version) That looks fine. But i do wonder, what is the use for No. 311 Fighter/Bomber Squadron as they only need to get Mark-3 spatial torpedoes delivery airborne as it has almost unlimited range, would a missile base armed with Mark-3 spatial torpedoes somewhere in the Netherlands not be more useful. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 29, 2019 16:16:42 GMT
But i do wonder, what is the use for No. 311 Fighter/Bomber Squadron as they only need to get Mark-3 spatial torpedoes delivery airborne as it has almost unlimited range, would a missile base armed with Mark-3 spatial torpedoes somewhere in the Netherlands not be more useful. That Depends on how much you want to be able to survive a pre-emptive strike I presume. If you want to Ensure that they even survive a nuclear strike I think it would be best to hide them in missile silo or base them from a cruise missile submarine would be best I think. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 29, 2019 21:00:46 GMT
One Thing I have thought about is that maybe Tatcher would be willing to go to war against Argentina if she knew they were going to attack and that Britain would end up winning the war. For her this would be an excellent opportunity to gain Prestige and prove that the Royal Navy is still a powerfull navy instead of the second-rate power everyone Will have written them off as since the Suez Crisis.
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 30, 2019 14:45:54 GMT
If I may be so brave,may it be possible for me to post a future spaceship that you may use?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 30, 2019 14:57:17 GMT
If I may be so brave,may it be possible for me to post a future spaceship that you may use? Go ahead, surprise me. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 30, 2019 16:01:39 GMT
If I may be so brave,may it be possible for me to post a future spaceship that you may use? Go ahead, surprise me. Arnhem-class destroyer KNRS Alkmaar Captain Edelgard Herzog Motto: Virtus Repulsae Nescia (Courage knows no defeat) Emblem: a black eagle holding an axe in its talons on a red background with the ship’s motto written underneath. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 30, 2019 16:02:36 GMT
Arnhem-class destroyer KNRS Alkmaar Captain Edelgard Herzog Motto: Repulsae Nescia (Courage knows no defeat) Emblem: a black eagle holding an axe in its talons on a red background with the ship’s motto written underneath. Nice one eurowatch. |
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Post by eurowatch on Jul 30, 2019 16:08:23 GMT
Arnhem-class destroyer KNRS Alkmaar Captain Edelgard Herzog Motto: Repulsae Nescia (Courage knows no defeat) Emblem: a black eagle holding an axe in its talons on a red background with the ship’s motto written underneath. Nice one eurowatch . Thank you. I imagine Edelgard to be a strict and agressive captain who always wants to get into the most dangerous assignments, much to the constant horror of her XO. |
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 9, 2019 16:47:07 GMT
What is going to happen to Hong Kong in this scenario? Will Great Britain be fine With handing it over to China-Nanking when they know that the alternative might be a war?
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Post by lordroel on Oct 9, 2019 16:51:30 GMT
What is going to happen to Hong Kong in this scenario? Will Great Britain be fine With handing it over to China-Nanking when they know that the alternative might be a war? Doubt that will happen in the near future. |
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 9, 2019 16:54:12 GMT
What is going to happen to Hong Kong in this scenario? Will Great Britain be fine With handing it over to China-Nanking when they know that the alternative might be a war? Doubt that will happen in the near future. The lease runs out in 1986, that is not that far in the future. |
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