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Post by lordroel on Dec 16, 2018 20:44:22 GMT
Till now they rule the State of Janjira and have Jafrabad as vassals. @lordroel wasn't there a reference to Turks in the passage where the Dutchman is left with the Portuguese. You mean: Mehmet Pasha enters the courtyard, "Nawab, I have some news for you from Turkey. Please come."
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Dec 16, 2018 20:50:19 GMT
Till now they rule the State of Janjira and have Jafrabad as vassals. @lordroel wasn't there a reference to Turks in the passage where the Dutchman is left with the Portuguese. You mean: Mehmet Pasha enters the courtyard, "Nawab, I have some news for you from Turkey. Please come."
Yea. It is there for a specific reason. Mehmet Pasha himself is a Turk. Ottomans and Janjira had a very good relation. You can check it on the wiki. |
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Dec 16, 2018 20:52:38 GMT
Just a spoiler. The Nawab will break free from the Portuguese rule after some time. Why don't you post about Su'rat'te?
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Post by stevep on Dec 16, 2018 20:56:13 GMT
It is something related to an RP going on in Shared Worlds. You can join. In such a world Pakistan hasn't been formed. We are just in the dev stage. The Mughals, Gujrat all had at some point, Muslim leaders.
I gathered that but don't really have the time thanks.
My point is that the princely states didn't survive independence and its very unlikely they would in any time that India becomes independent. You would need a radically different India and starting some way back for Muslim ruled majority Indian princely states to survive.
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Dec 16, 2018 21:13:47 GMT
Janjira was an actual Muslim princely state. It was a British puppet. In this imaginary world, it declares itself as a Portuguese vassal. Initially upset, the British decided not to intervene as they are anyways going to leave India. They however meet and tell the Nawab to stay in his limits. The Nawab is an ambitious man and begins talks with the Dutch. He is a staunch Muslim and is quite religious but doesn't discriminate. He is of Ethiopian descent. The Nawab will decide to give asylum to the Ottoman dynasty.
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Dec 16, 2018 21:14:43 GMT
Janjora survived for more than 300 years. It existed before British arrived.
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Post by stevep on Dec 16, 2018 22:07:15 GMT
Janjira was an actual Muslim princely state. It was a British puppet. In this imaginary world, it declares itself as a Portuguese vassal. Initially upset, the British decided not to intervene as they are anyways going to leave India. They however meet and tell the Nawab to stay in his limits. The Nawab is an ambitious man and begins talks with the Dutch. He is a staunch Muslim and is quite religious but doesn't discriminate. He is of Ethiopian descent. The Nawab will decide to give asylum to the Ottoman dynasty.
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Post by al-Khataei Abdulhaq on Dec 16, 2018 22:22:14 GMT
Regarding the other religous communities, they can migrate
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Post by James G on Dec 16, 2018 23:53:20 GMT
A bleep-ing disaster as Prime Minister - The Brown Years Tony Blair (Labour) - May 1997 to June 2007 Blair led Labour and the country through ten years. Diana's death, 9/11, the Iraq War and 7/7 were what many people would remember his premiership for despite his wishes for more defining achievements to be recalled. In June 2007, he supposedly left on his own terms... in reality, his Chancellor finally forced him into retirement. Gordon Brown (Labour) - June 2007 to November 2008 Coming into office, former Chancellor Brown brought with him new hope. The Brown Bounce was a real thing. His PR portrayed him as being responsible for economic good times. The comment that he could be an 'f**ing disaster' as PM was written off: it came true. Eager to seek a mandate, Brown went to the polls in November 2007. The campaign went terribly wrong with stupid errors and Brown's personality failings turning the voters off. Labour won, but only just. He'd sought to put an end to any Conservative resurgence and smash the Lib-Dems under their brand-new leader. Winning the most seats but just short of a working majority, Brown managed to gain a confidence & supply agreement with the Lib-Dems as he led a minority government. Boris Johnson's election as London Mayor was brushed off and so too were bye-election losses which whittled down Labour numbers. Yet the Lib-Dems were unreliable allies and their actions forced David Cameron's Conservatives to win several key Commons votes. The economic crash came late the next summer as Brown was facing off challenges to his leadership. He sought to hold on. Clegg's Lib-Dems then 'betrayed' Labour and sided with the Conservatives in a vote of no confidence with Clegg leading his MPs into the division lobbies at the last minute against Brown. Brown took the nation back to the polls a year after the last general election. The campaign was better for Brown than his first in terms of fewer disasters on the campaign trail but the end result was worse than the year before in terms of seats. Labour was out of office and Brown was out of Downing Street. David Cameron (Conservative) - November 2008 to  ? Winning outright with a working majority of twenty-three, Cameron had no need for any arrangement with the Lib-Dems. Clegg had believed he would have Cameron as a partner in government like they had been partners in bringing Brown down: Clegg the fool. The Conservatives were in power, now they had to deal with the economic mess they were fast to lay all at Brown's door and implement their own policies to save the nation.
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Post by stevep on Dec 17, 2018 9:40:04 GMT
A bleep-ing disaster as Prime Minister - The Brown Years Tony Blair (Labour) - May 1997 to June 2007 Blair led Labour and the country through ten years. Diana's death, 9/11, the Iraq War and 7/7 were what many people would remember his premiership for despite his wishes for more defining achievements to be recalled. In June 2007, he supposedly left on his own terms... in reality, his Chancellor finally forced him into retirement. Gordon Brown (Labour) - June 2007 to November 2008 Coming into office, former Chancellor Brown brought with him new hope. The Brown Bounce was a real thing. His PR portrayed him as being responsible for economic good times. The comment that he could be an 'f**ing disaster' as PM was written off: it came true. Eager to seek a mandate, Brown went to the polls in November 2007. The campaign went terribly wrong with stupid errors and Brown's personality failings turning the voters off. Labour won, but only just. He'd sought to put an end to any Conservative resurgence and smash the Lib-Dems under their brand-new leader. Winning the most seats but just short of a working majority, Brown managed to gain a confidence & supply agreement with the Lib-Dems as he led a minority government. Boris Johnson's election as London Mayor was brushed off and so too were bye-election losses which whittled down Labour numbers. Yet the Lib-Dems were unreliable allies and their actions forced David Cameron's Conservatives to win several key Commons votes. The economic crash came late the next summer as Brown was facing off challenges to his leadership. He sought to hold on. Clegg's Lib-Dems then 'betrayed' Labour and sided with the Conservatives in a vote of no confidence with Clegg leading his MPs into the division lobbies at the last minute against Brown. Brown took the nation back to the polls a year after the last general election. The campaign was better for Brown than his first in terms of fewer disasters on the campaign trail but the end result was worse than the year before in terms of seats. Labour was out of office and Brown was out of Downing Street. David Cameron (Conservative) - November 2008 to ? Winning outright with a working majority of twenty-three, Cameron had no need for any arrangement with the Lib-Dems. Clegg had believed he would have Cameron as a partner in government like they had been partners in bringing Brown down: Clegg the fool. The Conservatives were in power, now they had to deal with the economic mess they were fast to lay all at Brown's door and implement their own policies to save the nation.
Agreed Clegg was a total idiot in his deal with Cameron. Only May has made a worst mess of trying to negotiate a deal in recent history and in both cases they got screwed by immoral egomaniacs.
By save the nation unfortunately they were only really interested in saving the city financiers that made the mess in the 1st place - not just in Britain admittedly as it was a world wide problem - but then their the people who fund the Tory Party so not surprising the rest of the country had to stay in depressing to rescue the guilty. Nor that since nothing has been done to solve the problem and criminality is still rife in the financial sector its almost certain to happen again. 
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Post by James G on Dec 17, 2018 20:25:40 GMT
A bleep-ing disaster as Prime Minister - The Brown Years Tony Blair (Labour) - May 1997 to June 2007 Blair led Labour and the country through ten years. Diana's death, 9/11, the Iraq War and 7/7 were what many people would remember his premiership for despite his wishes for more defining achievements to be recalled. In June 2007, he supposedly left on his own terms... in reality, his Chancellor finally forced him into retirement. Gordon Brown (Labour) - June 2007 to November 2008 Coming into office, former Chancellor Brown brought with him new hope. The Brown Bounce was a real thing. His PR portrayed him as being responsible for economic good times. The comment that he could be an 'f**ing disaster' as PM was written off: it came true. Eager to seek a mandate, Brown went to the polls in November 2007. The campaign went terribly wrong with stupid errors and Brown's personality failings turning the voters off. Labour won, but only just. He'd sought to put an end to any Conservative resurgence and smash the Lib-Dems under their brand-new leader. Winning the most seats but just short of a working majority, Brown managed to gain a confidence & supply agreement with the Lib-Dems as he led a minority government. Boris Johnson's election as London Mayor was brushed off and so too were bye-election losses which whittled down Labour numbers. Yet the Lib-Dems were unreliable allies and their actions forced David Cameron's Conservatives to win several key Commons votes. The economic crash came late the next summer as Brown was facing off challenges to his leadership. He sought to hold on. Clegg's Lib-Dems then 'betrayed' Labour and sided with the Conservatives in a vote of no confidence with Clegg leading his MPs into the division lobbies at the last minute against Brown. Brown took the nation back to the polls a year after the last general election. The campaign was better for Brown than his first in terms of fewer disasters on the campaign trail but the end result was worse than the year before in terms of seats. Labour was out of office and Brown was out of Downing Street. David Cameron (Conservative) - November 2008 to ? Winning outright with a working majority of twenty-three, Cameron had no need for any arrangement with the Lib-Dems. Clegg had believed he would have Cameron as a partner in government like they had been partners in bringing Brown down: Clegg the fool. The Conservatives were in power, now they had to deal with the economic mess they were fast to lay all at Brown's door and implement their own policies to save the nation.
Agreed Clegg was a total idiot in his deal with Cameron. Only May has made a worst mess of trying to negotiate a deal in recent history and in both cases they got screwed by immoral egomaniacs.
By save the nation unfortunately they were only really interested in saving the city financiers that made the mess in the 1st place - not just in Britain admittedly as it was a world wide problem - but then their the people who fund the Tory Party so not surprising the rest of the country had to stay in depressing to rescue the guilty. Nor that since nothing has been done to solve the problem and criminality is still rife in the financial sector its almost certain to happen again.
Save was in italics but I should have made that clearer: it was their version of save as opposed to the RL version of Gordon saving the world. |
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Post by stevep on Dec 17, 2018 21:48:21 GMT
Agreed Clegg was a total idiot in his deal with Cameron. Only May has made a worst mess of trying to negotiate a deal in recent history and in both cases they got screwed by immoral egomaniacs.
By save the nation unfortunately they were only really interested in saving the city financiers that made the mess in the 1st place - not just in Britain admittedly as it was a world wide problem - but then their the people who fund the Tory Party so not surprising the rest of the country had to stay in depressing to rescue the guilty. Nor that since nothing has been done to solve the problem and criminality is still rife in the financial sector its almost certain to happen again.
Save was in italics but I should have made that clearer: it was their version of save as opposed to the RL version of Gordon saving the world.
OK thanks for clarifying.
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Post by insect on Dec 23, 2018 3:38:41 GMT
1965-1973: Lyndon Johnson/ Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)
Def,1964: Barry Goldwater/ William E. Miller (Republican)
Def,1968 Ronald Reagan/Edmund Burke (Republican)
1973-1981: Richard Nixon Howard Baker (Republican)
Def. 1972 Hubert Humphrey/George McGovern(Democrat)
Def. 1976 Edmund Muskie/Jimmy Carter
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Post by James G on Jan 21, 2019 23:29:15 GMT
Clinton resigns
Bill Clinton - Jan 20, 1993 to August 21, 1998
In light of Lewinsky revelations, Clinton resigns from the office of the presidency.
Al Gore - August 21, 1998 to Jan 20, 2005
Taking over from Clinton, Gore runs & wins in 2000 before being term-limited for 2004.
John McCain - Jan 20, 2005 to ? ? ? ?
After Bush's loss to Gore in 2000, McCain goes for it in 2004 and wins.
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Post by insect on Jan 25, 2019 1:37:58 GMT
Gary Hart Democratic 1989-1997 loyed Benton
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