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Post by lordroel on May 7, 2019 12:51:16 GMT
The Canadian Spece Agency (CSA) has about 13 sattelites, but only two are dedicated observation platforms. Both are pretty much assinged to observing German positions. What about Japanese naval movements. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 7, 2019 14:38:19 GMT
The Canadian Spece Agency (CSA) has about 13 sattelites, but only two are dedicated observation platforms. Both are pretty much assinged to observing German positions. I wonder what the Allies must make of that, the Canadians from the future using space-based machines orbiting the Earth to observe the Germans from afar. By now, I also bet that at least some in the US--certainly the highest levels of government--have been made aware of the moon landings. As for its frenemy across the Pacific, I wonder what the Soviets, by which I mean Stalin & Co., must make of Sputnik and such. |
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Post by lordroel on May 7, 2019 14:40:46 GMT
The Canadian Spece Agency (CSA) has about 13 sattelites, but only two are dedicated observation platforms. Both are pretty much assinged to observing German positions. I wonder what the Allies must make of that, the Canadians from the future using space-based machines orbiting the Earth to observe the Germans from afar. By now, I also bet that at least some in the US--certainly the highest levels of government--have been made aware of the moon landings. As for its frenemy across the Pacific, I wonder what the Soviets, by which I mean Stalin & Co., must make of Sputnik and such. Wonder if Wernher von Braun will end up going to Canada instead of the United States like OTL. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 7, 2019 14:44:21 GMT
I wonder what the Allies must make of that, the Canadians from the future using space-based machines orbiting the Earth to observe the Germans from afar. By now, I also bet that at least some in the US--certainly the highest levels of government--have been made aware of the moon landings. As for its frenemy across the Pacific, I wonder what the Soviets, by which I mean Stalin & Co., must make of Sputnik and such. Wonder if Wernher von Braun will end up going to Canada instead of the United States like OTL. He'd have much more, well, STEM to work with in the Great White North. Perhaps to the consternation of the US down south, however. |
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Post by lordroel on May 7, 2019 16:38:13 GMT
Wonder if Wernher von Braun will end up going to Canada instead of the United States like OTL. He'd have much more, well, STEM to work with in the Great White North. Perhaps to the consternation of the US down south, however. Also wonder, but i guess we have to wait from redrobin65, have people who are famous like Albert Einstein immigrated to Canada ore have been offered to live their by the Canadians. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 7, 2019 17:32:46 GMT
He'd have much more, well, STEM to work with in the Great White North. Perhaps to the consternation of the US down south, however. Also wonder, but i guess we have to wait from redrobin65 , have people who are famous like Albert Einstein immigrated to Canada ore have been offered to live their by the Canadians. Maybe they'd make good guest speakers and perhaps be paid quite handsomely to make them. Alan Turing speaking at Ontario Tech University, for example, might be worth writing about. |
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Post by stevep on May 7, 2019 17:35:25 GMT
The Canadian Spece Agency (CSA) has about 13 sattelites, but only two are dedicated observation platforms. Both are pretty much assinged to observing German positions.
Interesting thanks. Didn't realise they had that capacity.
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Post by stevep on May 7, 2019 17:37:12 GMT
Also wonder, but i guess we have to wait from redrobin65 , have people who are famous like Albert Einstein immigrated to Canada ore have been offered to live their by the Canadians. Maybe they'd make good guest speakers and perhaps be paid quite handsomely to make them. Alan Turing speaking at Ontario Tech University, for example, might be worth writing about.
Given current laws in Canada Alan Turing would be a lot better off there, although that would be a huge loss for Britain.
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Post by Zyobot on May 7, 2019 17:45:24 GMT
Maybe they'd make good guest speakers and perhaps be paid quite handsomely to make them. Alan Turing speaking at Ontario Tech University, for example, might be worth writing about.
Given current laws in Canada Alan Turing would be a lot better off there, although that would be a huge loss for Britain.
That makes me wonder how Britain and other Allied nations would react to people migrating to Canada, be it for social tolerance or the many shiny toys invented since the '40s. |
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Post by stevep on May 7, 2019 18:02:19 GMT
Given current laws in Canada Alan Turing would be a lot better off there, although that would be a huge loss for Britain.
That makes me wonder how Britain and other Allied nations would react to people migrating to Canada, be it for social tolerance or the many shiny toys invented since the '40s.
Well in some cases they might try and discourage them, when their got important skills but other than restrictions on soldiers in the armed forces during the war I'm not sure how much they could do. In cases where they might be unwelcome where they are now for reasons of race, political views or other 'unwelcome' values the down-timers would probably welcome them leaving but how many could Canada easily and willingly absorb?
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Post by Zyobot on May 7, 2019 18:04:33 GMT
That makes me wonder how Britain and other Allied nations would react to people migrating to Canada, be it for social tolerance or the many shiny toys invented since the '40s.
Well in some cases they might try and discourage them, when their got important skills but other than restrictions on soldiers in the armed forces during the war I'm not sure how much they could do. In cases where they might be unwelcome where they are now for reasons of race, political views or other 'unwelcome' values the down-timers would probably welcome them leaving but how many could Canada easily and willingly absorb?
A fair question. I can't give precise stats, but Canada would have to be selective about who it takes in not only because of the potential numbers of people who want to come in, but also whether their downtimer values are compatible with the Canadians' own uptimer ones. |
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Post by redrobin65 on May 8, 2019 10:36:46 GMT
German forces in Denmark were low in number. The 198th Infantry Division, which was approximately 8,500 men strong, was headquartered in Copenhagen. However, its overall combat effectiveness was reduced due to several factors. Firstly, many of its men had been killed in the original Denmark Campaign or transferred to other units. Secondly, it was spread out all over the country, with most of its men on Jutland. The only saving grace of the 198th’s situation was that its close proximity to Germany meant that units in Schleswig-Holstein could quickly reinforce the 198th.
In the early hours of March 19th, the Canadian 7th Airmobile Division landed in Jutland. The 21st Light Brigade Group was deployed near Aalborg, securing the town against no opposition. The 20th and 22nd brigades landed at Herning and Aarhus respectively, while the 19th Airborne Brigade-Group parachuted in near Kolding.
The commander of the 198th Division, Major-General Hermann Meyer-Rabingen, was in a tricky position. Most of his troops were spread throughout the more populous areas of Jutland, with Zealand defended by only a single understrength regiment (332nd Infantry). Though he had trouble actually contacting all of his units, he ordered the 332nd Regiment to send one of its battalions (2nd) to the northeast corner of the island between the towns of Tisvilde and Dronningmolle in anticipation of an amphibious landing.
March 19th, 1941, Tisvilde, Denmark
Tisvilde, Denmark.
Private Anton Ziegler and his comrades were currently shivering in a makeshift trench on the beach. Ziegler squinted at the sky as he saw the dark shapes of aircraft race southwards through the morning sky.
Next to him, Private Arnold Roth snorted. “Of course, they get to bomb us with impunity, and we can’t do anything about it.”
Ziegler nodded in agreement. “Oh, yes. Who knows if the Luftwaffe will help us anyway.”
Roth and a few other men chuckled. “At least we actually have guns!”
Ziegler cringed. He had exchanged letters with his younger brother Rolf, who’s unit was training in Pomerania. Rolf’s battalion only had 400 rifles for 600 men, which, in Arnold’s mind, was pathetic. His musings were interrupted by the platoon sergeant.
“Hey, you! Keep filling those sandbags. Do you think that the British and the French are going to just walk towards you without shooting?”
Ziegler groaned. One corporal looked out towards the water with binoculars.
“Um, Sergeant?”
“What? Shouldn’t you be setting up a machine gun post?”
“Sir, look.”
The sergeant grabbed the binoculars and looked to where the corporal was pointing.
“Do you see them, sir?”
“…Yes.”
“We should probably get down, sir.”
“Yes, that’s right. Everyone get down!!”
The men looked at each other perplexedly. “Wait, what’s happening?” Roth demanded.
His question was answered when guns flashed out on the horizon. Recognizing naval artillery for what it was, the men hit the ground as shells screamed in. Ziegler put his hands over his ears as the shells slammed into the German positions.
The bombardment continued for half an hour, but for Private Ziegler and his unit, it felt like eternity. The roar of the shells and the sound of their explosions drowned out any other noise, making it extremely difficult to think about anything other than surviving. When it was all over, a few men stood up cautiously.
“Is everyone okay?”
“No, you idiot!” a wounded man shouted. The radio operator was frantically fiddling with his shrapnel-riddled equipment. “I can’t contact battalion headquarters!”
“The sergeant’s dead!”
But Ziegler wasn’t paying much attention to all of that. He was looking out at the water, where several dark shapes were approaching the beach. “Enemy boats!”
The other men looked out at the water. The boats were beginning to spit machine gun fire at the beach. The Germans took cover and readied their weapons, but it would be difficult. Half of the platoon was either killed or wounded, and their positions had been severely damaged during the bombardment.
A few men began to shoot at the boats, inviting even more return fire. The landing craft stopped near the shore, lowered their ramps, and disgorged troops who began to charge up the beach.
“Shoot! Shoot!” yelled a corporal. Rifle fire crackled up and down the line. Ziegler aimed his rifle at one soldier and shot him, hitting the man in the stomach. The man dropped to the ground and began screaming, making Ziegler feel a bit ill. The German troops were too few in number and too low on firepower to stop the attackers, who rapidly approached the trench.
“We’re being overrun!” Ziegler managed to yell before a rifle butt slammed into his chin. Spinning to the ground, he saw a tall man pointing a rifle with a bayonet at his throat.
“Haenderne op!” the man demanded.
Ziegler had picked up some Danish during his time in the country, and slowly put his hands up.
MFOH
The 1st Free Danish Infantry Division had been formed from troops who had escaped the German conquest of their country in 1940 along with volunteers from the Danish diaspora across the world. Together with the Norwegian 5th Infantry Division, they landed on Zealand at 7:30 AM, backed up by Allied warships. After unloading, the two divisions stormed southwards towards Copenhagen.
For General Rabingen, the situation was hopeless. The Danes and Norwegians were swatting aside the 332nd Regiment like flies. An attempt at making a stand near Hillerod failed miserably, with the defending company being plastered with artillery and overwhelmed by sheer numbers. By 1:30 PM, the Allies had entered Copenhagen, where they raced towards the German headquarters. They were aided by Danish Resitance fighters attacking the Germans wherever possible. Realizing that his position was very precarious, Rabingen surrendered at 3:00 PM. King Christian X and the Danish Government entered the capital to cheering crowds.
Elsewhere in the country, more amphibious landings had taken place. The Royal Marine 1 Commando Brigade and the Canadian 40th Armoured Brigade-Group landed at Esbjerg at dawn, pushing inland and linking up with paratroopers near the town of Vejen. The German garrison at Esbjerg had been quickly overwhelmed. Most of the Allied casualties here came from HMCS Glace Bay, which had hit a mine and sank with most of her crew.
By the end of the day, the Allies had liberated most of Denmark and were beginning to move southwards. German attempts to counter this were thwarted by heavy airstrikes on their positions in Schleswig-Holstein.
MFOH
The German Eleventh Army had never recovered from Operation NORDHAMMER, and the events of March 19th showed. Their forces were split in two when the understrength 72nd Infantry Division collapsed when attacked by the British 1st Armoured Division near Apeldoorn. The British pushed the Germans back all over the line on the first day, and inflicted serious casualties. By nightfall, the 1st Armoured Division had penetrated deep into German lines, crossing the Ijssel and capturing the town of Deventer.
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Post by Zyobot on May 8, 2019 12:34:59 GMT
redrobin65Nice update. As expected, the Germans are being pushed back further and further, their forces whittled away by Canadian-won curbstomp battles. And the uptimers aren't alone in their efforts, either. Important as the military side of TTL's WW2 may be, I still wonder how life must be going at home in the Great White North itself. Maybe some famous downtimers might be poking around over there, for instance?
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2019 15:07:01 GMT
The 1st Free Danish Infantry Division had been formed from troops who had escaped the German conquest of their country in 1940 along with volunteers from the Danish diaspora across the world. Together with the Norwegian 5th Infantry Division, they landed on Zealand at 7:30 AM, backed up by Allied warships. After unloading, the two divisions stormed southwards towards Copenhagen.
Another fine update redrobin65 . Would it be correct that most of those who serve in the 1st Free Danish Infantry Division would in OTL have served with the Danish Brigade in Sweden . |
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Post by Zyobot on May 8, 2019 16:15:16 GMT
The 1st Free Danish Infantry Division had been formed from troops who had escaped the German conquest of their country in 1940 along with volunteers from the Danish diaspora across the world. Together with the Norwegian 5th Infantry Division, they landed on Zealand at 7:30 AM, backed up by Allied warships. After unloading, the two divisions stormed southwards towards Copenhagen.
Another fine update redrobin65 . Would it be correct that most of those who serve in the 1st Free Danish Infantry Division would in OTL have served with the Danish Brigade in Sweden . I wonder if those formations might get access to any of the shiny toys the uptimers have brought with them, if you know what I mean?  |
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