Timeline 31

[lordroel]

Jun 15, 2019 12:20:08 GMT mobiyuz said:

14 February 1862
Eureka, Capital District


"Alright, men. Let's get to work."

Among that is creating a army and navy to defend the republic.

[mobiyuz]

Jun 16, 2019 9:41:32 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 15, 2019 12:20:08 GMT mobiyuz said:

14 February 1862
Eureka, Capital District


"Alright, men. Let's get to work."

Among that is creating a army and navy to defend the republic.

That reminds me, is it possible for me to create a separate thread somewhere that I can post maps and flags and other things for Timeline 31?

[lordroel]

Jun 16, 2019 16:34:51 GMT mobiyuz said:

Jun 16, 2019 9:41:32 GMT lordroel said:

Among that is creating a army and navy to defend the republic.

That reminds me, is it possible for me to create a separate thread somewhere that I can post maps and flags and other things for Timeline 31?

Of course, you can create one in the Alternate History Maps, Flags and Graphics board with a link to this thread.

[mobiyuz]

Jun 16, 2019 16:36:40 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 16, 2019 16:34:51 GMT mobiyuz said:

That reminds me, is it possible for me to create a separate thread somewhere that I can post maps and flags and other things for Timeline 31?

Of course, you can create one in the Alternate History Maps, Flags and Graphics board with a link to this thread.

Excellent.

[lordroel]

Jun 16, 2019 16:38:10 GMT mobiyuz said:

Jun 16, 2019 16:36:40 GMT lordroel said:

Of course, you can create one in the Alternate History Maps, Flags and Graphics board with a link to this thread.

Excellent.

No problem, pleasure to help any author who post a TL here on Alternate Timelines.

[mobiyuz]

The new supplement thread, containing ancillary maps, flags, and graphics, can be found here.

[mobiyuz]

Part 5: End of the Honeymoon (1866-1885)

In the closing days of the presidency of Leland Stanford I, there were already signs that the "honeymoon phase", the initial euphoria and excitement of becoming a sovereign nation, was beginning to wear off. After the annexation of Utah Territory, the area it had made up was still considered "unorganized territory" until 1867, and then again denied statehood. Meanwhile, the Native Californians were continually aggravated over the incursion of Anglo-American (now Anglo-Californian) settlers into their territory, while the government remained dominated by Leland Stanford's Bear Flag Party in the face of a squabbling and poorly-organized Freedom Party opposition. In the developing cities, the country's non-Anglo populations of Hispanic and Asian-Californians were already actively marginalized, subjected to laws that are sometimes called the "Celestial Laws" in regard to Asians in particular and Separación in regard to the Hispanic-Californians. Stanford, though, had made an effort to try and be a president of all Californians despite his personal beliefs that ran prejudiced against anything that wasn't white, Anglo-Saxon, and protestant, but in the election of 1868, his vice president Henry H. Haight was elected to be the second President of California while Stanford himself went into private business, and everything began to go downhill.

Henry Huntley Haight, 2nd President of California 

Haight's much more opinionated approach to politics immediately drove a spike through much of the country, openly stating his opposition to polygamy and that the new Deseret Territory would not be admitted as a state until the Mormon Church abandoned polygamy. At the same time, he also announced that the discriminatory practices of housing and land appropriations against non Anglo-Californians was constitutional under a doctrine of "Separate but Equal", that so long as equal treatment was afforded, Separación and related practices would be fully allowed, and that if the Native Californians of the east would not willingly submit, they would be brought to heel by force. All of this combined to create the "Haight Manifesto", effectively continuing the social practices that had been prominent in the United States before their collapse.

A literal barbed wire fence segregating the developing Chinatown of San Francisco, at a time when it was feared 

that Chinese immigrants carried the Bubonic Plague and other diseases. 

Opposition to the BFP was often hard to create a unified front with, owing to the split in the Freedom Party. This split was largely driven by two men: Senator George C. Gorham and Senator Robert W. Waterman, over the question of social programs and racial equality. On the more conservative end, George C. Gorham was of the opinion that enough had been achieved in the way of racial equality, accepting the doctrine of "separate but equal", and that the government shouldn't take a strong position in the economy, as opposed to the BFP that gave extensive land grants for railroads and other infrastructure projects (many of which disproportionately benefited members of the party). On the liberal end, Robert W. Waterman instead argued for government intervention in the economy and for an end to government-sponsored segregation of ethnic minorities in the country. This schism in the Freedom Party left very little real opposition for most of the country's early history.

George C. Gorham (left) and Robert W. Waterman (right), the two leading figures of the Californian left.

It was also during this time that one of California's biggest ongoing problems would manifest itself. Despite increasing Anglo-Californian settlement. the interior of the country was largely dominated by the Native Californians, who were thoroughly opposed to further losses of their native lands. In 1871, the Apache led raids on multiple caravans moving across the easternmost portion of the country, killing and mutilating everyone involved. The government responded by moving army forces in to begin quelling their attacks, although their initial lack of numbers and unfamiliarity with the terrain gave the Natives the ability to fight a guerrilla war. This marked the beginning of the so-called "Sand Wars", where the government would spend the next 30 years attempting to bring the natives to heel.

Koyawe, one of the leading figures in the Apache resistance to Californian
settlement in the interior for most of the Sand Wars, photographed during a
brief period of internment in 1887.

Elsewhere in California, meanwhile, the country was experiencing a massive period of economic growth. Fueled by the newly organized California Pacific Railroad company, railroad construction boomed during this time and with the collaboration of railroad companies east of the Rocky Mountains, ambitious plans for two separate transcontinental railroad lines began taking shape, the first of which took the form of an overland railroad running east from Oakland, through Sacramento and across the Sierra Nevada Mountains into Salt Lake City. Meanwhile, the coast of the country continued to dominate the city politically, economically, and demographically, with San Francisco still holding the position of "primate city" as what was overwhelmingly the country's largest city, having grown to more than 175,000 people by 1875 at a time when the country as a whole had grown to only 700,000. The city was also the single largest city on the entire western coast of the continent, and one of the largest ports in the whole of the Pacific Ocean.

The expanding metropolis of San Francisco as seen from Market Street, 1875

With the country's expanding influence, it began to draw more and more attention from the world, and immigration began to blossom. Advertisements for the country's massive expanses of land and her lush, fertile soil were put up the world over by shipping companies such as the Red Star Line, the California Oriental Co., and the Asian-American Steamship Line, bringing hundreds of thousands of immigrants to settle in California. California's growth was almost unprecedented, to the point that even when European immigrants came to the Confederacy, New England, or Freedonia, they would just as often immediately set out on trips overland or by sea to California. Immigration in this period was so high that the federal government obtained a lease on Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay to serve as the center for a new immigration processing station, where immigrants would be temporarily detained before being sent off to one of five ports of entry: San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Eureka, or Sacramento further inland.

The Alcatraz Immigration Center seen from the air, ca. 1880-1890

California's lush soil wasn't an embellishment, either. Upon the election of President Newton Booth in 1874, a new project began through the Crocker-Huffman Land Co. to begin digging out irrigation canals across the San Joaquin Valley and Sacramento Valley, which made up the so-called "Great Valley of California". Initially dominated by ranching, the two valleys proved to have intensely fertile soil that made agriculture a highly profitable venture. As the irrigation was expanded, California's agricultural production boomed, fueling further population growth in the country and further settlement in the interior of the country. In fact, once the first link of the a transcontinental railroad was completed in 1878, advances in refrigeration and the ease of transportation allowed California to sell its excess produce across the continent, to the point that Californian-produced goods began to out-compete agricultural products elsewhere on the continent, leading to tariffs being imposed and limiting California's California's exports of fruits, vegetables, and other products in North America.

A promotional map of the San Joaquin and Sacramento Valleys, prior to the draining of Tulare Lake.

In the election of 1880, the Freedom Party put Gorham up as their nominee for President against the complaints of the liberal faction led by Waterman, but once his nomination was secured he was backed by the whole of the party to try and defeat the as-yet undefeated Bear Flag Party, whose candidate that year was Washington Bartlett. In a tight vote, Gorham won the election, but was immediately faced down by the division within his party and the growing social discontent in California. It was in 1881 that Abraham Lincoln traveled to California on a touring schedule of speeches and public appearances once the initial fury of the War of Dissolution had died down, and gave three speeches in California: one in Salt Lake City, one in Sacramento, and one in San Francisco, promoting what at that point was his developing quasi-socialist political philosophy as it diverged from that of Karl Marx, putting a fire under movements seeking social change in California, particularly in regard to immigrants, non Anglo-Californians, and even women, who had begun forming an organized political movement to win the right to vote nationwide.

A demonstration of the California Equal Suffrage Association in Los Angeles, 1882

The lack of social progress, combined with an economic recession brought on by overproduction and speculation in the agricultural markets (the "Panic of '83") continued to inflame social tensions throughout the country, compounded upon by the ongoing Sand Wars, the growing restlessness of the Mormons in Deseret Territory, and the by now openly insubordinate Senator Waterman's speeches against President Gorham's administration and his lack of progress. This would come to a head in 1885, when Abraham Lincoln published a manuscript titled New Common Sense, in which he presented his political philosophy as a hybridization of capitalist democracy and more moderate elements of Marxist socialism, arguing that such a system could indeed be brought about democratically and peacefully, marking a final schism between socialism in North America and in Europe, and bringing new inspiration to Waterman's faction. On 13 July 1885, in advance of the upcoming election in 1886, Senator Waterman and the members of his ideological faction stood up and walked out of the Senate, symbolically declaring their break from the Freedom Party. In the coming weeks, Waterman led conferences and talks with members of several smaller socialist and even communist parties in California, using New Common Sense as the base for a new platform that would form the base of a new political party. On 9 September 1885, the new Progressive Party was declared and created, crippling the Freedom Party beyond repair and effectively damning it to the dustbin of history.

An original copy of a New Common Sense pamphlet, printed 1885,
now considered to be one of the most influential political documents
in the history of North America and the world.

[lordroel]

Jun 20, 2019 11:07:41 GMT mobiyuz said:

Part 5: End of the Honeymoon (1866-1885)

In the closing days of the presidency of Leland Stanford I, there were already signs that the "honeymoon phase", the initial euphoria and excitement of becoming a sovereign nation, was beginning to wear off. After the annexation of Utah Territory, the area it had made up was still considered "unorganized territory" until 1867, and then again denied statehood. Meanwhile, the Native Californians were continually aggravated over the incursion of Anglo-American (now Anglo-Californian) settlers into their territory, while the government remained dominated by Leland Stanford's Bear Flag Party in the face of a squabbling and poorly-organized Freedom Party opposition. In the developing cities, the country's non-Anglo populations of Hispanic and Asian-Californians were already actively marginalized, subjected to laws that are sometimes called the "Celestial Laws" in regard to Asians in particular and Separación in regard to the Hispanic-Californians. Stanford, though, had made an effort to try and be a president of all Californians despite his personal beliefs that ran prejudiced against anything that wasn't white, Anglo-Saxon, and protestant, but in the election of 1868, his vice president Henry H. Haight was elected to be the second President of California while Stanford himself went into private business, and everything began to go downhill.

Henry Huntley Haight, 2nd President of California 

Haight's much more opinionated approach to politics immediately drove a spike through much of the country, openly stating his opposition to polygamy and that the new Deseret Territory would not be admitted as a state until the Mormon Church abandoned polygamy. At the same time, he also announced that the discriminatory practices of housing and land appropriations against non Anglo-Californians was constitutional under a doctrine of "Separate but Equal", that so long as equal treatment was afforded, Separación and related practices would be fully allowed, and that if the Native Californians of the east would not willingly submit, they would be brought to heel by force. All of this combined to create the "Haight Manifesto", effectively continuing the social practices that had been prominent in the United States before their collapse.

A literal barbed wire fence segregating the developing Chinatown of San Francisco, at a time when it was feared 

that Chinese immigrants carried the Bubonic Plague and other diseases. 

Opposition to the BFP was often hard to create a unified front with, owing to the split in the Freedom Party. This split was largely driven by two men: Senator George C. Gorham and Senator Robert W. Waterman, over the question of social programs and racial equality. On the more conservative end, George C. Gorham was of the opinion that enough had been achieved in the way of racial equality, accepting the doctrine of "separate but equal", and that the government shouldn't take a strong position in the economy, as opposed to the BFP that gave extensive land grants for railroads and other infrastructure projects (many of which disproportionately benefited members of the party). On the liberal end, Robert W. Waterman instead argued for government intervention in the economy and for an end to government-sponsored segregation of ethnic minorities in the country. This schism in the Freedom Party left very little real opposition for most of the country's early history.

George C. Gorham (left) and Robert W. Waterman (right), the two leading figures of the Californian left.

It was also during this time that one of California's biggest ongoing problems would manifest itself. Despite increasing Anglo-Californian settlement. the interior of the country was largely dominated by the Native Californians, who were thoroughly opposed to further losses of their native lands. In 1871, the Apache led raids on multiple caravans moving across the easternmost portion of the country, killing and mutilating everyone involved. The government responded by moving army forces in to begin quelling their attacks, although their initial lack of numbers and unfamiliarity with the terrain gave the Natives the ability to fight a guerrilla war. This marked the beginning of the so-called "Sand Wars", where the government would spend the next 30 years attempting to bring the natives to heel.

Koyawe, one of the leading figures in the Apache resistance to Californian
settlement in the interior for most of the Sand Wars, photographed during a
brief period of internment in 1887.

Elsewhere in California, meanwhile, the country was experiencing a massive period of economic growth. Fueled by the newly organized California Pacific Railroad company, railroad construction boomed during this time and with the collaboration of railroad companies east of the Rocky Mountains, ambitious plans for two separate transcontinental railroad lines began taking shape, the first of which took the form of an overland railroad running east from Oakland, through Sacramento and across the Sierra Nevada Mountains into Salt Lake City. Meanwhile, the coast of the country continued to dominate the city politically, economically, and demographically, with San Francisco still holding the position of "primate city" as what was overwhelmingly the country's largest city, having grown to more than 175,000 people by 1875 at a time when the country as a whole had grown to only 700,000. The city was also the single largest city on the entire western coast of the continent, and one of the largest ports in the whole of the Pacific Ocean.

The expanding metropolis of San Francisco as seen from Market Street, 1875

With the country's expanding influence, it began to draw more and more attention from the world, and immigration began to blossom. Advertisements for the country's massive expanses of land and her lush, fertile soil were put up the world over by shipping companies such as the Red Star Line, the California Oriental Co., and the Asian-American Steamship Line, bringing hundreds of thousands of immigrants to settle in California. California's growth was almost unprecedented, to the point that even when European immigrants came to the Confederacy, New England, or Freedonia, they would just as often immediately set out on trips overland or by sea to California. Immigration in this period was so high that the federal government obtained a lease on Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay to serve as the center for a new immigration processing station, where immigrants would be temporarily detained before being sent off to one of five ports of entry: San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose, Eureka, or Sacramento further inland.

The Alcatraz Immigration Center seen from the air, ca. 1880-1890

California's lush soil wasn't an embellishment, either. Upon the election of President Newton Booth in 1874, a new project began through the Crocker-Huffman Land Co. to begin digging out irrigation canals across the San Joaquin Valley and Sacramento Valley, which made up the so-called "Great Valley of California". Initially dominated by ranching, the two valleys proved to have intensely fertile soil that made agriculture a highly profitable venture. As the irrigation was expanded, California's agricultural production boomed, fueling further population growth in the country and further settlement in the interior of the country. In fact, once the first link of the a transcontinental railroad was completed in 1878, advances in refrigeration and the ease of transportation allowed California to sell its excess produce across the continent, to the point that Californian-produced goods began to out-compete agricultural products elsewhere on the continent, leading to tariffs being imposed and limiting California's California's exports of fruits, vegetables, and other products in North America.

A promotional map of the San Joaquin and Sacramento Valleys, prior to the draining of Tulare Lake.

In the election of 1880, the Freedom Party put Gorham up as their nominee for President against the complaints of the liberal faction led by Waterman, but once his nomination was secured he was backed by the whole of the party to try and defeat the as-yet undefeated Bear Flag Party, whose candidate that year was Washington Bartlett. In a tight vote, Gorham won the election, but was immediately faced down by the division within his party and the growing social discontent in California. It was in 1881 that Abraham Lincoln traveled to California on a touring schedule of speeches and public appearances once the initial fury of the War of Dissolution had died down, and gave three speeches in California: one in Salt Lake City, one in Sacramento, and one in San Francisco, promoting what at that point was his developing quasi-socialist political philosophy as it diverged from that of Karl Marx, putting a fire under movements seeking social change in California, particularly in regard to immigrants, non Anglo-Californians, and even women, who had begun forming an organized political movement to win the right to vote nationwide.

A demonstration of the California Equal Suffrage Association in Los Angeles, 1882

The lack of social progress, combined with an economic recession brought on by overproduction and speculation in the agricultural markets (the "Panic of '83") continued to inflame social tensions throughout the country, compounded upon by the ongoing Sand Wars, the growing restlessness of the Mormons in Deseret Territory, and the by now openly insubordinate Senator Waterman's speeches against President Gorham's administration and his lack of progress. This would come to a head in 1885, when Abraham Lincoln published a manuscript titled New Common Sense, in which he presented his political philosophy as a hybridization of capitalist democracy and more moderate elements of Marxist socialism, arguing that such a system could indeed be brought about democratically and peacefully, marking a final schism between socialism in North America and in Europe, and bringing new inspiration to Waterman's faction. On 13 July 1885, in advance of the upcoming election in 1886, Senator Waterman and the members of his ideological faction stood up and walked out of the Senate, symbolically declaring their break from the Freedom Party. In the coming weeks, Waterman led conferences and talks with members of several smaller socialist and even communist parties in California, using New Common Sense as the base for a new platform that would form the base of a new political party. On 9 September 1885, the new Progressive Party was declared and created, crippling the Freedom Party beyond repair and effectively damning it to the dustbin of history.

An original copy of a New Common Sense pamphlet, printed 1885,
now considered to be one of the most influential political documents
in the history of North America and the world.

Another great update mobiyuz,

[stevep]

   Sounds like a head of steam for social change is building up and hopefully it can resolve some of the serious divisions within the country.

   A bit worried by the comment about Lincoln's book marking a clear divide between European and N American socialism. That would suggest, assuming that the latter develops a moderate social democracy party which will gain power at some point, that no such development will occur in Europe.  Which would be a serious loss compared to OTL unless some radicalised Liberalism fills in the gap say.

[lordroel]

Jun 20, 2019 11:07:41 GMT mobiyuz said:

Part 5: End of the Honeymoon (1866-1885)

In the closing days of the presidency of Leland Stanford I, there were already signs that the "honeymoon phase", the initial euphoria and excitement of becoming a sovereign nation, was beginning to wear off. After the annexation of Utah Territory, the area it had made up was still considered "unorganized territory" until 1867, and then again denied statehood. Meanwhile, the Native Californians were continually aggravated over the incursion of Anglo-American (now Anglo-Californian) settlers into their territory, while the government remained dominated by Leland Stanford's Bear Flag Party in the face of a squabbling and poorly-organized Freedom Party opposition. In the developing cities, the country's non-Anglo populations of Hispanic and Asian-Californians were already actively marginalized, subjected to laws that are sometimes called the "Celestial Laws" in regard to Asians in particular and Separación in regard to the Hispanic-Californians. Stanford, though, had made an effort to try and be a president of all Californians despite his personal beliefs that ran prejudiced against anything that wasn't white, Anglo-Saxon, and protestant, but in the election of 1868, his vice president Henry H. Haight was elected to be the second President of California while Stanford himself went into private business, and everything began to go downhill.

Does California presidents have more than one single term ore are they allowed more than one term in office.

[mobiyuz]

Jun 20, 2019 15:58:49 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 20, 2019 11:07:41 GMT mobiyuz said:

Part 5: End of the Honeymoon (1866-1885)

In the closing days of the presidency of Leland Stanford I, there were already signs that the "honeymoon phase", the initial euphoria and excitement of becoming a sovereign nation, was beginning to wear off. After the annexation of Utah Territory, the area it had made up was still considered "unorganized territory" until 1867, and then again denied statehood. Meanwhile, the Native Californians were continually aggravated over the incursion of Anglo-American (now Anglo-Californian) settlers into their territory, while the government remained dominated by Leland Stanford's Bear Flag Party in the face of a squabbling and poorly-organized Freedom Party opposition. In the developing cities, the country's non-Anglo populations of Hispanic and Asian-Californians were already actively marginalized, subjected to laws that are sometimes called the "Celestial Laws" in regard to Asians in particular and Separación in regard to the Hispanic-Californians. Stanford, though, had made an effort to try and be a president of all Californians despite his personal beliefs that ran prejudiced against anything that wasn't white, Anglo-Saxon, and protestant, but in the election of 1868, his vice president Henry H. Haight was elected to be the second President of California while Stanford himself went into private business, and everything began to go downhill.

Does California presidents have more than one single term ore are they allowed more than one term in office.

The President of California is limited to a single, 6 year long term in office and they cannot run for re-election. Once you're elected, you have six years to do what you came to do and then that's it. The only possible exception is if you come into the office as a result of the former president dying in office or resigning before the term is complete, so long as that president completed more than half of his term in office. In that event, you are allowed to run for a full 6 years of your own.

[mobiyuz]

17 June 1873
Eastern Arizona

California had been a nation for only 10 years now. Anyone who fit the definition of a natural-born citizen was still wearing shorts. And despite their best efforts to avoid being a repeat of the United States of America, it had the present issue of trying to pacify the native tribes that now lived within its territory. Grisly reports from the east had sent back reports of entire towns slaughtered; the men were killed, the women suffered a fate worse than death and then killed, piles of scalps tall as a horse collected by the savages that ran wild across the west. By the way the newspapers of the west described it, each village was lead by the Indian equivalent of Julius Caesar, ready to cross the Sierras and march on San Francisco with an army to drive the Anglos from the west entirely.

Based on what General Robert Norville had seen, however, the Indians weren’t anywhere near the strategic genius of Caesar, but had a far different strategy of hit and run tactics that, irritatingly, had proven highly effective. He’d been chasing them around the dry plateaus of eastern California for two years now, and they still held on, hiding in the rocks like a rattlesnake ready to bite at any second. The men around him fanned themselves with their hats and clutched their muskets to their chests as the camels made their way across the dusty plains, fearful that at any moment, there would be a whooping war call and the next thing they felt would be their scalps being removed.

Malcolm Wilkerson, his lieutenant, smiled as he rode up by the general. “Damn near hot enough to melt the bastards, isn’t it?”

For a moment, he couldn’t figure out if he was referring to the men he was leading, or the men they were trying to hunt down. He guessed he meant the men in his party. “I’d say so. If God made a hell on Earth, it’s this godforsaken wasteland he put full of Injuns and cactuses.”

“Cacti, General. And it could always be worse. At least it’s not Death Valley, I heard it can get to 120 degrees there.”

“God almighty. If that’s true, the air might well catch fire.”

“Yep, so just thank your lucky stars that we aren’t posted there.” He chuckled darkly, and the men rode on. Before long, they came across an act of divine providence: a small pond in the desert, with a few trees growing around it. And as if to cement how much of a gift from God himself it was, someone who had passed through earlier had left a sign reading “GOOD WATER” on a cow’s shoulder blade. They stopped to rest, the camels complaining as they always did, taking the opportunity to drink as much as they could before they had to get moving again. As Norville leaned up against a rock that gave no shade, he took a look at the camels their company had been given to ride across the desert on, grimacing at them much as they grimaced at him.

"I wanna know what God had in his pipe when he made these things. I once came across some redskins at a trading post who told me that it was the ugliest thing they'd ever seen, and I quote," here he put on a stereotypical Native monotone, "The one who was creating these beasts, he tried to make a horse but did not know how." That brought a round of laughs from the men in his unit.

Wilkerson took a drink and wiped his mouth with his sleeve. "You've gotta admit though, General, they're damn good at what they do, even if they don't do much. Back in school I read a book that said the Arabs call them 'ships of the desert', and I gotta agree. I've ridden horses and camels and even donkeys through this desert, and camels are both the worst and best animals for this kind of task."

He chuckled and leaned back against the rock, looking up at the perfectly blue sky with not a single white cloud spoiling the vast expanse of bright, unrelenting blue from which the oppressive sun glared down like a housewife prepared to take a switch to a petulant child. “Goddamn it...maybe we’d be better off letting the redskins keep this land and just leaving them to it.”

“Maybe they’re listening and think it’s a good idea.”

He chuckled aloud, then shouted out into the desert. “Hear that, ya damn savages? How does that sound? Getting this godless expanse of hot, worthless land all to yourselves because no white man in his right mind would touch it?”

Silence came from the landscape around them. If they heard, they weren’t saying anything about it. "They're probably noddin' and saying yes. Of course they just want this land to themselves, they know every cactus and rock in this whole goddamn wasteland by its first name." When no one continued to respond, he shrugged, placed his hat back on his head, and said“Alright, let’s just get going again.” They got up, mounted the camels, and kept carrying on from the spot. Before they did, however, Norville marked down the location of the pool on his map of the region, one of many others he'd marked as either good or bad water. It would be good be to return to it sometime soon. They made their way through the desert without incident, the camels moving effortlessly around cacti and rocks and sand and the men doing their best to avoid being hit with heat stroke. The dusty wasteland stretched around them for miles and miles, with the rare breeze blowing the spicy smell of sagebrush from the endless number of the bushes that dotted the plains.

When the late afternoon came, the unit moved into the shade of a mesa that served as the only landmark for miles, doing their best to try and get some relief from the oppressive heat that hung over the desert. Before they could get settled, there was a loud bark of a gun from behind a rock so small that no white man would ever think it could be used as a hiding place, followed by the sound of a bullet ricocheting off a rock and the shrapnel burying itself into a man’s leg. He slid off his camel with a scream of pain, and Norville barely had time to register that the Indians had somehow gotten their hands on guns when another crack from a rifle was followed by the sensation that someone had just punched him hard in the gut, which was itself in turn followed by the sensation of someone having driven a spike deep into his belly.

He screamed and fell off his own camel as well, smashing his head on a rock and immediately wishing that it had knocked him out when the screaming pain in his stomach was coupled with the sensation of what felt like a crack in his skull. As his other men got out their own guns and let out their own whoops and hollers, chasing after where the gunfire had come from, one of the other men stopped over his commander. “Get the surgeon!”

Even in his groggy state, he had a dim recognition that the medic wouldn’t help him once he got a view of how the hand he had clutched at his stomach with was covered in blood, and more of the same was flowing onto his lap.

“Oh God.”

He only had time to croak out those two words before the lights went out.

[lordroel]

Jun 20, 2019 21:15:09 GMT mobiyuz said:

Jun 20, 2019 15:58:49 GMT lordroel said:

Does California presidents have more than one single term ore are they allowed more than one term in office.

The President of California is limited to a single, 6 year long term in office and they cannot run for re-election. Once you're elected, you have six years to do what you came to do and then that's it. The only possible exception is if you come into the office as a result of the former president dying in office or resigning before the term is complete, so long as that president completed more than half of his term in office. In that event, you are allowed to run for a full 6 years of your own.

So it is like how the CSA and Mexico office then, better than what Texas had in place when they where independent.

[mobiyuz]

Jun 21, 2019 6:55:47 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 20, 2019 21:15:09 GMT mobiyuz said:

The President of California is limited to a single, 6 year long term in office and they cannot run for re-election. Once you're elected, you have six years to do what you came to do and then that's it. The only possible exception is if you come into the office as a result of the former president dying in office or resigning before the term is complete, so long as that president completed more than half of his term in office. In that event, you are allowed to run for a full 6 years of your own.

So it is like how the CSA and Mexico office then, better than what Texas had in place when they where independent.

Essentially, yes. And don't worry, Texas comes back up soon.

[lordroel]

Jun 21, 2019 7:04:02 GMT mobiyuz said:

Jun 21, 2019 6:55:47 GMT lordroel said:

So it is like how the CSA and Mexico office then, better than what Texas had in place when they where independent.

Essentially, yes. And don't worry, Texas comes back up soon.

Well i always like seeing a independent Texas and even a independent California who in my creations i have toughed of was a Kingdom instead of a republic, but Timeline 31
is better than hat i could have created, thus keep up the good work.