Miscellaneous Star Wars Thread

[Zyobot]

Here's some commentary on the actual viability of an infamous Sequels faction.

The First Order Doesn't Work

[stevep]

  Zyobot , & all

   Thanks and interesting, albeit I'm not a great SW's fan.  Here is a link to the 2nd video - don't know how to provide the sort of image you guys do when you link to one.  Definitely seems more realistic - and likely to be dangerous to the galaxy - that what the 1st video paints as a path for the 1st Order.

   I didn't actually realise that under the empire Palpultine and presumably the other force users kept their Sith identity secret.  Had assumed it was known given the destruction of the Jedi.

  One question that comes to mind given the manpower limits of the 1st order is why didn't they use clones like the old Republic did during their war with the CIS that lead up to the empires formation?  Or does that require resources that they lack.

  Steve

[gillan1220]

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[Zyobot]

It depends heavily on the continuity, but I've been wondering about what AH looks like within the Star Wars universe? I have a short list of some likely counterfactuals, though it's a far cry from comprehensive. Something else worth noting is that different people will have different takes on each of these scenarios, with no two people's executions of the general premises offered above looking quite the same (as is true in real life).

Alderaan Lives: Debatable PoD here, but the premise is exactly as it says in the title. How the timeline would diverge down the line, I don't know.

Darth Vader's Trial: Don't have a perfect analogy for this one, but I've a feeling that if it went down, it'd be more or less the in-universe equivalent to having Heinrich Himmler captured and tried alongside the other high-ranking Nazis (trying Palpatine would be synonymous with trying Hitler, and is similarly unlikely to ever happen). Granted, the New Republic may have hosted their own version of the Nuremberg Trials, but having the Emperor's Enforcer himself there to face justice would make it even more sensational than it must've been canonically.

Lasting Galactic Empire: Probably the in-universe equivalent of a "victorious Third Reich" scenario, and a similarly done-to-death premise, at that. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find a Man in the High Castle equivalent or few that becomes a hit series, once the Empire is no more and liberal democracy has returned to the Galaxy.

No Blockade of Naboo: The Trade Federation leaves Naboo alone, so perhaps Palpatine pursues a different route to seizing power. Not sure why he'd do it, but from the perspective of in-universe AH fans who don't know about the Sith carrying out their own "long march through the institutions" over the centuries, it may be a counterfactual that comes up periodically.

Surviving CIS: The Confederacy survives as more than a few Separatist holdouts, allowing it to maintain its Droid Army and keep fighting the newly formed Galactic Empire, leading to a prolonged Clone Wars. For this to happen, I'd think that having the Separatist Council avoid being slaughtered is key. Or at least, ensuring the Separatists have a viable backup plan, in case their leadership is decapitated (both figuratively and literally).

Twilight of the Dark Lord: An in-universe equivalent to AH.com's Twilight of the Red Tsar TL, in which Emperor Palpatine endures a sudden bout of madness--whether it's the Dark Side clouding his senses, a vision of how the Rebels won IOTL, or something else--that throws pretty much all his restraint into a black hole as he goes full Khmer Rouge mode on the Galaxy. Which only incites larger rebellions across Imperial space, with the Operation: Cinder-esque responses from the Imperial Military only fanning the flames further. In any case, I think that once it's all over, any respect for Palpatine or the New Order that survived canonically is completely dashed here (save for a tiny fringe of nihilistic stupids who'd get blasted full of laser bolts, if they ever went public with their views).

The last one, of course, is more of a specific TL idea than a scenario that's open to discussion and "collaborative" insights from various thread participants. However, I think it was worth mentioning, since it's an idea that strikes me as obviously characteristic of at least Canon Palpatine, if he got a glimpse of his OTL fate a few years early. I'd write it myself, but I have neither the time, nor the wherewithal right now. However, anyone else is more than welcome to take a stab at it (though I also request they credit me and link to this post, should they do so).

Otherwise, that's about all I've got for now. I'll list other in-universe AH ideas that catch my fancy in future posts, should I come across some interesting ones.

[Zyobot]

Something funny I found on The Sietch’s Star Wars discussion thread:

[Zyobot]

We've got a big brain over here, fellas!

[Zyobot]

SMAUL


Mixing Star Wars puns with Gen Z humor. I don't know whether to laugh or run away as fast as my legs can carry me.

[gillan1220]

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[Zyobot]

Aug 1, 2021 5:17:36 GMT gillan1220 said:

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I'd say that was me, but given how my patience is hit or miss in those situations, I tend to drum my fingers and look about in agitated fashion.

Here's something from Jensaarai1, this time a breakdown that I may not have seen coming, but am nonetheless glad he has published.

Emperor Palpatine - Martial Proficiencies & Weaponry (Legends)

[Zyobot]

Now here's something original for a change, this time from a commentator whose blog I linked to some months before.

Perhaps I'll post it in the 'Greco-Romans In The Modern World' thread, too, since there's relevant overlap there.

[stevep]

Aug 4, 2021 1:19:28 GMT Zyobot said:

Now here's something original for a change, this time from a commentator whose blog I linked to some months before.

Perhaps I'll post it in the 'Greco-Romans In The Modern World' thread, too, since there's relevant overlap there.

  I must admit that reading through it I couldn't resist laughing at the para

Of course, this only works in the context of the original continuity (a.k.a the expanded universe). The new Disney continuity wouldn't recognise macrohistory if Oswald Spengler and Arnold Toynbee both rose from the grave and took turns kicking Mickey Mouse in the nuts. But that's neither here nor there.

  Anyone would think the writer didn't like the disney story.

[Zyobot]

Aug 4, 2021 14:53:19 GMT stevep said:

Aug 4, 2021 1:19:28 GMT Zyobot said:

Now here's something original for a change, this time from a commentator whose blog I linked to some months before.

Perhaps I'll post it in the 'Greco-Romans In The Modern World' thread, too, since there's relevant overlap there.

  I must admit that reading through it I couldn't resist laughing at the para

Of course, this only works in the context of the original continuity (a.k.a the expanded universe). The new Disney continuity wouldn't recognise macrohistory if Oswald Spengler and Arnold Toynbee both rose from the grave and took turns kicking Mickey Mouse in the nuts. But that's neither here nor there.

  Anyone would think the writer didn't like the disney story.

Same here, man. Same here.

[Zyobot]

Now this looks like an interesting fan project!

StarWars Redemption - Trailer


To quote a congratulatory Senator Palpatine: "We will watch your career with great interest."

[Zyobot]

More memes! As usual, beware potential spoilers before watching.

Star Wars Memes #63

[Zyobot]

Aug 10, 2021 22:35:06 GMT Zyobot said:

More memes! As usual, beware potential spoilers before watching.

Star Wars Memes #63

And another one:

Star Wars Memes #64