For All Mankind (AH Tv series at Apple TV)

[lordroel]

For All Mankind: Season 3 - Official Teaser Trailer (2022) Joel Kinnaman, Michael Dorman

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

Apr 13, 2022 2:54:30 GMT lordroel said:

For All Mankind: Season 3 - Official Teaser Trailer (2022) Joel Kinnaman, Michael Dorman

I'm not going lie I have been waiting to see anything about this season. The first season of For All Mankind was kind of slow and I thought about dropping it altogether but the second season was a lot better. So I have high hopes for season three. As a 90s kid seeing Man on Mars is easily one of the coolest things. Hopefully this dones well so we can get season fourth, fifth, and maybe even a sixth season. 

If they keep jumping about ten years each we should be in the 2020s by season 4 or 5. 

[lordroel]

Apr 13, 2022 19:21:46 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

If they keep jumping about ten years each we should be in the 2020s by season 4 or 5. 

I want to see a surviving Soviet Union instead of Russia.

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

Apr 13, 2022 19:24:14 GMT lordroel said:

Apr 13, 2022 19:21:46 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

If they keep jumping about ten years each we should be in the 2020s by season 4 or 5. 

I want to see a surviving Soviet Union instead of Russia.

Giving that they pulled out of the middle east it could have survived. But I doubt the show will upend history that much. The USSR dead in 1991. I think we would need a good reason for it to not fall apart by 1995. Maybe the two nations aren't viewing each other as their greatest foe and money isn't poured into beaten them. Money going into schools and roads would help in keeping it alive. A happy people aren't the sort to break away.

So while it could have survived I think it would still fall. Besides with how better then 1980s was maybe the 1990s will have computers closer to what we had by 2000. 

Point is I'm looking forward to seeing what this world's 1995 looks like. Many Sony doesn't get shit on and the PlayStation never exists. A dark timeline to be sure for any Sony fans in this world.  

[lordroel]

Apr 14, 2022 7:49:40 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

Apr 13, 2022 19:24:14 GMT lordroel said:

I want to see a surviving Soviet Union instead of Russia.

Giving that they pulled out of the middle east it could have survived. But I doubt the show will upend history that much. The USSR dead in 1991. I think we would need a good reason for it to not fall apart by 1995. Maybe the two nations aren't viewing each other as their greatest foe and money isn't poured into beaten them. Money going into schools and roads would help in keeping it alive. A happy people aren't the sort to break away.

So while it could have survived I think it would still fall. Besides with how better then 1980s was maybe the 1990s will have computers closer to what we had by 2000. 

Point is I'm looking forward to seeing what this world's 1995 looks like. Many Sony doesn't get shit on and the PlayStation never exists. A dark timeline to be sure for any Sony fans in this world.  

Russia of OTL 1995 was in no condition to join a joint mission to Mars, a surviving Soviet Union does.

But we have to wait and see when Season 3 comes out to be sure.

[lordroel]

First images of season 3 of For All Mankind.

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For All Mankind — Season 3 Official Trailer | Apple TV+

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

Damn if this show keeps upping itself each season they should just order seasons 4 and 5 right now. Season four could cover the 2000s and season five could cover the late 2010 and 2020s.

I like that we seem to have a SpaceX-like group here. I still believe other nations would join in. I see no good reason why the United States and the Soviets. What I want to know is how did they make it so the USSR survives. Was there anything in the late 1980s that could have saved it?

[lordroel]

Expanded the timeline that was shown in the first episode of Season 3 to the first post of this thread.

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

I thought the first episode of this season was a bit slow but I dug the idea of a space hotel. However, the idea that one thruster could somehow overpower what must be a dozen others trying to slow it down was a bit much. I get that you need something to go wrong but the idea they wouldn't have at least six ways to solve that is something I just can't overlook.

The second episode was a far better one. The ending was a nice one. One final mission to Mars to make up for not going for the Moon back in 1969. The idea to use the hotel is a neat one. One it saves money because it's already in space so no need to make a place to live while on-rote to the planet. Two once Mars is set up it could act as a way station. You could have ships docked to it ready to return to Earth already fueled and ready to go. By this timeline's 2000s I would guess Earth would have something akin to that over the Moon. No real reason not to save on cost when you need only fuel it go to the Moon. Anything deeper in Sol could just be fueled with helium-3 (I think that could be used for rockets) somebody who knows the uses of that please tell me if that could be done. I'm like 90% that is a use for the stuff.

[lordroel]

Jun 19, 2022 3:23:25 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

I thought the first episode of this season was a bit slow but I dug the idea of a space hotel. However, the idea that one thruster could somehow overpower what must be a dozen others trying to slow it down was a bit much. I get that you need something to go wrong but the idea they wouldn't have at least six ways to solve that is something I just can't overlook.

Feel like the Space Hotel turned into a space ship by a 1995 version of Elon Musk is only done to have a third party going to Mars wich is not one of the two superpowers in the series.

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

Jun 19, 2022 7:18:03 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 19, 2022 3:23:25 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

I thought the first episode of this season was a bit slow but I dug the idea of a space hotel. However, the idea that one thruster could somehow overpower what must be a dozen others trying to slow it down was a bit much. I get that you need something to go wrong but the idea they wouldn't have at least six ways to solve that is something I just can't overlook.

Feel like the Space Hotel turned into a space ship by a 1995 version of Elon Musk is only done to have a third party going to Mars which is not one of the two superpowers in the series.

Well in a way it makes sense. We've had two seasons with the two superpowers. They needed to do something more then merely moving the goal from the Moon to Mars. They needed to get more players into the mix. Having an Elon Musk like guy making a bid for first to Mars is a nice enough idea. I just thought the opening episode was a tad bit on the slow side and made little sense. 

Truth be told I feel like this will be the last season with the older cast in any role that matters. I mean they all must be pushing into their late 50-60s by now. We are already seeing the newer cast replacing them. By season's four 2000s it'll be them that the show will be using and the older cast will be more in the background.

[lordroel]

Jun 19, 2022 18:09:14 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

Jun 19, 2022 7:18:03 GMT lordroel said:

Feel like the Space Hotel turned into a space ship by a 1995 version of Elon Musk is only done to have a third party going to Mars which is not one of the two superpowers in the series.

Well in a way it makes sense. We've had two seasons with the two superpowers. They needed to do something more then merely moving the goal from the Moon to Mars. They needed to get more players into the mix. Having an Elon Musk like guy making a bid for first to Mars is a nice enough idea. I just thought the opening episode was a tad bit on the slow side and made little sense. 

Truth be told I feel like this will be the last season with the older cast in any role that matters. I mean they all must be pushing into their late 50-60s by now. We are already seeing the newer cast replacing them. By season's four 2000s it'll be them that the show will be using and the older cast will be more in the background.

Is there going to be a Season 4.

Always assumed the Soviets would go for Venus, in OTL they where the country who did the most missions to Venus.

[SpaceOrbisHistory]

Jun 19, 2022 18:16:34 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 19, 2022 18:09:14 GMT SpaceOrbisHistory said:

Well in a way it makes sense. We've had two seasons with the two superpowers. They needed to do something more then merely moving the goal from the Moon to Mars. They needed to get more players into the mix. Having an Elon Musk like guy making a bid for first to Mars is a nice enough idea. I just thought the opening episode was a tad bit on the slow side and made little sense. 

Truth be told I feel like this will be the last season with the older cast in any role that matters. I mean they all must be pushing into their late 50-60s by now. We are already seeing the newer cast replacing them. By season's four 2000s it'll be them that the show will be using and the older cast will be more in the background.

Is there going to be a Season 4.

Always assumed the Soviets would go for Venus, in OTL they where the country who did the most missions to Venus.

As for any news on a fourth season I have no idea on the answer. We are but two episodes into this one and logic tells us to hold off on any guesses on what the people making the call will do. Great shows are killed off far too much while shows that have no right to see a new season see four or five get made. 

As for the Soviets making a bid for Venus I see no real point. Mars is the clear next step. Venus is too hot and has an atmospheric pressure that would make us all human pancakes. Unless you're idea is housing people in space over the planet I think any plans for that were killed by the end of episode one. If we can't keep people safe over Earth no way would we risk sending people millions of miles away without a shit ton of back ups being put into place on anything.

No in my eyes Mars is and will always be the next step for mankind after the Moon. Venus is the dominion of scientific inquiry. We may send a few rovers and whatever else but manned mission is maybe something closer to the mid to late 21st century. At the rate this show is going that'll be more a season six or seven type episode.

Remember we are in 1992. NASA will be going to Mars in 1995. If the season doesn't go past 1995 season four (if the people don't kill it) we will likely be seeing a mid to late 2000s era world. Given the speed of technological advancement it'll be more or less when we are in mid 2022. In many ways I wished this was our world. Makes me hopeful we see a fourth season. So far the show keeps getting better each time a season starts. Season one was a bit slow but it get going around the midway point. Season two kicked off with a bombshell of an episode on the Moon and season three set us up for a mission to Mars by 1994-1995.

If I had to guess we will get a season four and five. There is no reason I can see that we should have need to worry. We could do with some hopeful shows right now. The new Star Treks shows have been sort of sad and dark. It's nice to have a bit of a more hopeful show to watch each week.    

[lordroel]

Democracy is on the back burner in the For All Mankind universe as i found this on AH.com:

-The Soviets beating the US to the Moon in 1969.

-The US withholding military aid from South Vietnam in 1972, causing the defeat and fall of South Vietnam three years early.

-Pope John Paul II getting assasinated.

-Margaret Thatcher getting assasinated.

-The US men's hockey team getting trounced by the Soviets at Lake Placid.

-The US withholding military aid from Kuwait in 1991, likely causing the indefinite occupation of that country by Iraq.

-The Chernobyl disaster somehow being avoided.

-The Warsaw Pact surviving into the late 1990s (for now).

-The Soviets now owning half of the Moon.

-Literally all of Latin America becoming communist.

-Geopolitically, the deck is stacked against the democratic capitalist world in For All Mankind.