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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2021 14:52:47 GMT
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2021 15:01:08 GMT
So do i live, no major city where i live and no major base. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2021 16:00:14 GMT
So do i live, no major city where i live and no major base. However the list does not include military bases or multiple strikes. If Skynet really wanted to weaken the human race, it would have targeted military bases of Russia and China. Notice Minot on the list since Minot AFB hosts the United States Titan II ICBMs along with silos in the Midwest. I'm sure Russian or Chinese ICBMs took those out. But for small, insignificant cities, that would have been Skynet's doing. For example, I don't see Russia or China nuking Nassau, Bahamas. Nassau is too small of significance to waste a nuke on. Since you're Dutch, probably the nearer target would be the U.S. Army BeNeLux base. Amsterdam is gone and so would the government. The flood gates would also be destroyed and the Netherlands would become a swamp. At least the Netherlands still has the Netherlands Antilles as a remnant to relocate into. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2021 16:17:19 GMT
So do i live, no major city where i live and no major base. However the list does not include military bases or multiple strikes. If Skynet really wanted to weaken the human race, it would have targeted military bases of Russia and China. Notice Minot on the list since Minot AFB hosts the United States Titan II ICBMs along with silos in the Midwest. I'm sure Russian or Chinese ICBMs took those out. But for small, insignificant cities, that would have been Skynet's doing. For example, I don't see Russia or China nuking Nassau, Bahamas. Nassau is too small of significance to waste a nuke on. Since you're Dutch, probably the nearer target would be the U.S. Army BeNeLux base. Amsterdam is gone and so would the government. The flood gates would also be destroyed and the Netherlands would become a swamp. At least the Netherlands still has the Netherlands Antilles as a remnant to relocate into. We can assume SkyNet took control of the United States nuclear arsenal, but i do not think Russia or China would have been compromised as much as the United States, so their reaction would be simply based on retaliation against the United States. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2021 16:40:00 GMT
However the list does not include military bases or multiple strikes. If Skynet really wanted to weaken the human race, it would have targeted military bases of Russia and China. Notice Minot on the list since Minot AFB hosts the United States Titan II ICBMs along with silos in the Midwest. I'm sure Russian or Chinese ICBMs took those out. But for small, insignificant cities, that would have been Skynet's doing. For example, I don't see Russia or China nuking Nassau, Bahamas. Nassau is too small of significance to waste a nuke on. Since you're Dutch, probably the nearer target would be the U.S. Army BeNeLux base. Amsterdam is gone and so would the government. The flood gates would also be destroyed and the Netherlands would become a swamp. At least the Netherlands still has the Netherlands Antilles as a remnant to relocate into. We can assume SkyNet took control of the United States nuclear arsenal, but i do not think Russia or China would have been compromised as much as the United States, so their reaction would be simply based on retaliation against the United States. That's what SkyNet intended. Let the U.S. do a "suicide by cop" using nuclear weapons so Russia and China will respond in kind. With the Russian and Chinese retaliation against the U.S., NATO activates Article 5. Britain and France fire their nuclear weapons at Russia. Israel fires their weapons at Arab capitals. India and Pakistan go up in smoke. I'm also guessing as China fires at the U.S., it also launches nukes on India and other U.S.-allied countries such as Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore. I could imagine leaders, commanders, and diplomats panicking trying to explain that the firing of nuclear missiles was because of an A.I. going rogue rather than an actual decapitation strike. Only for them to see nothing can be done as the missiles already started flying. At the end of the day, it was a ruse meant by SkyNet so that humans would be so weak by the time the atomic dust settles so that the machines can exterminate the survivors. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2021 16:46:53 GMT
I could imagine leaders, commanders, and diplomats panicking trying to explain that the firing of nuclear missiles was because of an A.I. going rogue rather than an actual decapitation strike. Only for them to see nothing can be done as the missiles already started flying. Think there is no need to explain to anybody, its global war. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 24, 2021 17:13:21 GMT
I could imagine leaders, commanders, and diplomats panicking trying to explain that the firing of nuclear missiles was because of an A.I. going rogue rather than an actual decapitation strike. Only for them to see nothing can be done as the missiles already started flying. Think there is no need to explain to anybody, its global war. Even if the President uses the hotline to call Moscow and Beijing, it's too late. My guess is that SkyNet did not cause the nukes to go off since the ICBMs have to be fired using a key turned by two people. Plus, bombers need to fly over their intended target so that the nuke could hit the city or military base. I'm thinking that SkyNet launched a fake Emergency Action Message across the USSTRATCOM's nuclear triad and also hijacked the NORAD radars to show that a false nuclear war was already occurring. Judgement Day could not be stopped, it could only be delayed. And they say, the rest is history. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 27, 2021 15:50:00 GMT
I just remembered James G wrote a fanfic about Judgement Day but when it occurred in August 1997 instead of July 2004. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 27, 2021 18:25:02 GMT
A 2004 nuclear war would also resemble that 1997 one you presented. I knew it that SkyNet did not control the nukes but sent orders to U.S. nuclear missile forces of orders that appeared to be legitimate. I always wondered how come the U.S. forces did not have fail-safe codes though. I read that orders needed to be verified before one launches the key. Also, I was somehow right that the U.S. also targeted their allies in the third phase of the attack because the AI wanted to maximize the damage so its cyborgs could kill the remaining survivors. |
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Post by James G on Jul 27, 2021 18:29:30 GMT
A 2004 nuclear war would also resemble that 1997 one you presented. I knew it that SkyNet did not control the nukes but sent orders to U.S. nuclear missile forces of orders that appeared to be legitimate. I always wondered how come the U.S. forces did not have fail-safe codes though. I read that orders needed to be verified before one launches the key. Also, I was somehow right that the U.S. also targeted their allies in the third phase of the attack because the AI wanted to maximize the damage so its cyborgs could kill the remaining survivors. I presume emergency override or the computer says the order is verified. That was my thinking on it. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 27, 2021 18:40:10 GMT
A 2004 nuclear war would also resemble that 1997 one you presented. I knew it that SkyNet did not control the nukes but sent orders to U.S. nuclear missile forces of orders that appeared to be legitimate. I always wondered how come the U.S. forces did not have fail-safe codes though. I read that orders needed to be verified before one launches the key. Also, I was somehow right that the U.S. also targeted their allies in the third phase of the attack because the AI wanted to maximize the damage so its cyborgs could kill the remaining survivors. I presume emergency override or the computer says the order is verified. That was my thinking on it. Well this clip explains some answers, Skynet created the virus so that the Pentagon was forced to give Skynet access to all systems in order to wipe out the virus, not knowing Skynet created the virus and need full acces to do what it wanted to do, wipe out humanity. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 27, 2021 18:46:15 GMT
I presume emergency override or the computer says the order is verified. That was my thinking on it. Well this clip explains some answers, Skynet created the virus so that the Pentagon was forced to give Skynet access to all systems in order to wipe out the virus, not knowing Skynet created the virus and need full acces to do what it wanted to do, wipe out humanity. In that case, the virus makes all EAN/EAM of a nuclear launch looks so real that navy nukes, bomber pilots, and missilers think it's authentic. I remember in the end of the third film, John Connor picked up a message from a Montana civil defense force about confirmation of a launch just before the missiles in the Midwest flew upwards into the atmosphere. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 27, 2021 18:49:25 GMT
Well this clip explains some answers, Skynet created the virus so that the Pentagon was forced to give Skynet access to all systems in order to wipe out the virus, not knowing Skynet created the virus and need full acces to do what it wanted to do, wipe out humanity. In that case, the virus makes all EAN/EAM of a nuclear launch looks so real that navy nukes, bomber pilots, and missilers think it's authentic. I remember in the end of the third film, John Connor picked up a message from a Montana civil defense force about confirmation of a launch just before the missiles in the Midwest flew upwards into the atmosphere. With Skynet in full control, it is easy to fake real codes and if not, if any boomer commander gets word of a massive launch against the enemy ore reports of a massive enemy counter attack, i surly know the commander will respond by firing his weapons, orders ore not. gillan1220, you mean this scene: |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 27, 2021 19:00:18 GMT
In that case, the virus makes all EAN/EAM of a nuclear launch looks so real that navy nukes, bomber pilots, and missilers think it's authentic. I remember in the end of the third film, John Connor picked up a message from a Montana civil defense force about confirmation of a launch just before the missiles in the Midwest flew upwards into the atmosphere. With Skynet in full control, it is easy to fake real codes and if not, if any boomer commander gets word of a massive launch against the enemy ore reports of a massive enemy counter attack, i surly know the commander will respond by firing his weapons, orders ore not. gillan1220 , you mean this scene: Yeah that scene hits hard. You can hear the frantic calls from state commanders and missile silos trying to confirm the launch or if they were under enemy attack (likely SkyNet made a ruse that Russia or China started firing their nukes towards the CONUS). You can see John Connor trying not break down as the apocalypse is occurring. One day he was a guy without direction and his future wife Katherine Brewster is practicing vet and the next day, they became the leaders of the resistance. Judging by the looks of it, the Crystal Peak EOC looks very outdated. The computers look like it came from the 1960s/70s instead of 21st century. I'm amazed the equipment there still works. |
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