A better Ukrainian Air Force, 1992–present

[lordroel]

Sept 9, 2024 12:30:02 GMT ukron said:

"White" camo for F-16C

Still seems to much, I assume with wartime they focus on making sure planes fly and can drop bombs instead of cameo them up, except for painting the yellow and blue on every Russian plane they operate.

[ukron]

Western model-makers when they see a Ukrainian F-16:

[lordroel]

Sept 9, 2024 12:38:57 GMT ukron said:

Western model-makers when they see a Ukrainian F-16:

Well we have seen them only once, so we have to wait and see if they get cameos as those we have posted in this thread so far.

[ukron]

www.twz.com/air/france-confirms-upgraded-mirage-2000s-heading-to-ukraine-in-early-2025

France has announced details of its plans to put surplus Dassault Mirage 2000 fighters into Ukrainian hands, with these jets receiving new air-to-ground capabilities ahead of planned deliveries starting in the first quarter of 2025. The delta-winged jet is set to become the second Western-made fighter to be provided to Kyiv, following the F-16, the first of which arrived in Ukraine this summer.

In a statement on X today, the French Minister of the Armed Forces Sébastien Lecornu added that the Mirage 2000s will first be outfitted with new electronic self-defense equipment as well as undisclosed modifications that will allow them to fly air-to-ground missions. That work will be conducted at Cazaux in southwest France. Meanwhile, the training of Ukrainian pilots and mechanics continues, Lecornu said.

[lordroel]

Oct 9, 2024 18:00:58 GMT ukron said:

www.twz.com/air/france-confirms-upgraded-mirage-2000s-heading-to-ukraine-in-early-2025

France has announced details of its plans to put surplus Dassault Mirage 2000 fighters into Ukrainian hands, with these jets receiving new air-to-ground capabilities ahead of planned deliveries starting in the first quarter of 2025. The delta-winged jet is set to become the second Western-made fighter to be provided to Kyiv, following the F-16, the first of which arrived in Ukraine this summer.

In a statement on X today, the French Minister of the Armed Forces Sébastien Lecornu added that the Mirage 2000s will first be outfitted with new electronic self-defense equipment as well as undisclosed modifications that will allow them to fly air-to-ground missions. That work will be conducted at Cazaux in southwest France. Meanwhile, the training of Ukrainian pilots and mechanics continues, Lecornu said.

What are the numbers we take about.

[ukron]

"Secret Défense" but I think it would be probably around 15-30 units in the first batch.

[lordroel]

Oct 10, 2024 18:17:03 GMT ukron said:

"Secret Défense" but I think it would be probably around 15-30 units in the first batch.

Seems you guess 10 over: France to deliver up to 20 modernized Mirage jets to Ukraine, media says

[ukron]

Thanks a lot

[lordroel]

Oct 12, 2024 16:36:34 GMT ukron said:

Thanks a lot

Think you like this, even if the cameo is to much i think, still look nice.

[ukron]

According to Le Monde, the Elysée's diplomatic cell wanted to deliver Rafales to Ukraine.

Sébastien Lecornu, Minister for the Armed Forces, refused to deprive the 🇫🇷 air force of precious Rafales.

In the end, Mirage 2000s were chosen.

“On the other hand, Emmanuel Macron's lurchings, particularly on Ukraine, force him into endless contortions. Either to twist the arm of armies and industrialists so that they empty their stocks of armaments and speed up their production rates. Or, on the contrary, to curb the ardor of a diplomatic cell that one day floats the idea of dispossessing the French air force of its precious Rafales and sending them to Kiev. In the end, it's the Mirage that will be delivered, in 2025.”

Source:

[lordroel]

Oct 13, 2024 18:06:42 GMT ukron said:

According to Le Monde, the Elysée's diplomatic cell wanted to deliver Rafales to Ukraine.

Sébastien Lecornu, Minister for the Armed Forces, refused to deprive the 🇫🇷 air force of precious Rafales.

In the end, Mirage 2000s were chosen.

“On the other hand, Emmanuel Macron's lurchings, particularly on Ukraine, force him into endless contortions. Either to twist the arm of armies and industrialists so that they empty their stocks of armaments and speed up their production rates. Or, on the contrary, to curb the ardor of a diplomatic cell that one day floats the idea of dispossessing the French air force of its precious Rafales and sending them to Kiev. In the end, it's the Mirage that will be delivered, in 2025.”

Source:

Are there old Rafales that could be transferred, the Rafale order list is full with many new countries having ore planing to buy them.

[ukron]

Oct 13, 2024 18:08:53 GMT lordroel said:

Are there old Rafales that could be transferred,

Nope, that's why such deal never happened.

[ukron]

France will deliver a first batch of 3️⃣ Mirage 2000-5 to Ukraine in the first quarter of 2025. In addition to MICA air-to-air missiles, these three Mirage 2000-5, which will fly in 🇺🇦 colours, will be armed with A2SM bombs and SCALP cruise missiles at the request of the 🇺🇦.

Two 30 mm cannons complete the armament. This configuration is similar to that of the 🇬🇷 Mirage 2000-5.

[lordroel]

Oct 23, 2024 13:18:08 GMT ukron said:

France will deliver a first batch of 3️⃣ Mirage 2000-5 to Ukraine in the first quarter of 2025. In addition to MICA air-to-air missiles, these three Mirage 2000-5, which will fly in 🇺🇦 colours, will be armed with A2SM bombs and SCALP cruise missiles at the request of the 🇺🇦.

Two 30 mm cannons complete the armament. This configuration is similar to that of the 🇬🇷 Mirage 2000-5.

You beat me in posting this, also it seems they will have Ukrainian cameo.

[ukron]

France is on track to complete the delivery of the 600 AASM-250 precision-guided bombs it has promised Ukraine before the end of the year.

The bombs can be dropped by Ukraine’s MiG-29 & Su-27 fighters as well as the French Mirage 2000-5 fighter jets Ukraine will receive in 2025