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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 1, 2023 20:47:30 GMT
"History of Atlantean Slavery", by Citizen John Worker [1], New English Press, Liverpool 1901
When the Spaniards conquered Morocco in the 1420s, they set up a harsh feudal regime directed to oppress the natives forever. The new settlers were only a minority there, even including the Europeans who lived there before the conquest [2], and the few muslims who became christians - at least then, because today the Arabs and Berbers are just a suppressed minority in their own country. [...]
Morocco became the most important source for slaves, especially after the Quadruple Monarchy started to found colonies in Atlantis. Whenever a village, a city or a county rebelled against Spanish rule, the servants of the king and the church would apply the same procedure: All men old enough to carry a weapon (even nine- and ten-year-old boys) were made slaves for the galleys, the gold mines in Atlantis, or worse, the quicksilver mines in Spain proper. Women young enough to bear childs were christianized by force and married to the male colonists in Morocco and Atlantis, while the older women became household slaves. All children old enough not to need their mother were brought into the orphanages of the church, where those who survived their time were educated to become fanatical christians. [...]
In the colonies, the muslim slaves formed the lowest class of the society. Even the black slaves were treated better, since they were christianized, and would look down to their fellow sufferers. [...]
The ibnatun [3], being muslimas who continued to practice their religion despite religious persecution and the occasional burning. The few of them who escaped to the Atlanteans, or were robbed by them, brought them their religion (watered down) too - Atlantean tribes like the Miskito or the Apache would start to believe in the one god in the sky, pray to the east five times a day and go to "Jihad". The suras of the Quran were mixed with the old songs; warriors and chiefs would take Arab sobriquets (al-Mumit, the killer; al-Hakam, the judge) and fast for one lunar month before important occasions (coming to adulthood, etc). [...]
[1] Probable a pseudonym, maybe by a foreign author too.
[2] Read: Liberated European slaves. The Spaniards were harsh ITTL Morocco, but the Muslims weren't perfect either.
[3] "Daughters", short for "Daughters of Allah". The religion was mostly passed on from mother to daughter, but rarely to sons, probably because women were considered less dangerous than the male muslims.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 1, 2023 20:55:35 GMT
Somewhere in the swamps of NW Germany. Two mercenaries in the service of the French king, fighting against the heretics of the Gottesfreistaat Münster. Nobody but those two is around, not even a horse or a dog. Slowly they proceed through the swamp, carefully eyeing around.
"It's like catching a goddamn hedgehog with bare hands", one of them says.
"So damn true", his comrade replies. "No cities you can storm, because the cannons would sink into the damn ground. No armies you can fight, 'cause all the goddamn people stay in their dirty villages, hidden in this goddamn swamp. Can't the devil come and dry it up?"
"Ssst!" the first ones hisses. "Someone's around!"
"Sure about that?"
"Damn sure. Hey, you there! Get out or I shoot you down like a rabid dog!"
The shrubbery rustles, and out comes a thin young man with thin blonde hair. He's nervous, but he tries to paper over the cracks.
"Who are you?" they demand to know. "Did you listen to us? Are you a spy?"
"Oh, who I am?" The man looks at them in a comical way. "What? You don't know me? But it's me, I'm Otto!" He presents a Hurdy Gurdy he had in his bag. "I'm a musician! Do you want to hear a song? Why of course you do! Let me sing and dance and play for you!"
Without leaving them time to say a word, he starts to jump around like a billygoat, play the hurdy gurdy and sing "Jetzt reiten wir zum König Fips" [1]. He's neither singing nor playing that good, but the way he does it is simply so funny that one cannot but laugh about the guy. The mercenaries first grin, then start to belly-laugh.
After the song, he starts to tell jokes, one after another, and not too soft ones. And after he told them the one joke about "strangling the Lucki [2]", he has them in tears from laughing. He starts to bow before them, in an exaggerated way. "Oh, thank you, thank you, my good lords! And now - do you have a little bit of money for me? With a nice picture on it?"
They two soldiers stop laughing. "Some good silver for you, fool? You'd better get off, or I'll cut off your ears with my rapier!"
"Oh, woe me! I'm getting off! I'm getting off!" He theatralically runs away, to the amusement of the mercenaries.
A bit later. "Otto" has waited until the two are out of sight. "Whew! That was close! Now let's go to Cloppenburg [3] and tell Father Heinz that they're coming! Hehehehehehe!"
[1] German for "Now we're riding to king Philip"; "king Philip" being the duke of Savoy Filippo II, against whom many Swiss mercenaries fought in the Swiss-Savoy War. The second strophe goes "Jetzt hauen wir den König Fips" (Now we're beating the king Philip).
[2] German nickname for Ludwig / Louis.
[3] Small city in the Gottesfreistaat Münster.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 1, 2023 21:04:14 GMT
Courses offered at the university of Yenisseisk in the year 1845:
Mandarin language (required course for all first-year students)
Courses about Arts:
The art of Gardening in Chunkvo
The art of Painting in Chunkvo
The art of Poetry in Chunkvo
The art of Electroplating in Chunkvo
The great Authors of Chunkvo
The music of Chunkvo
Courses about Society:
History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty
History of Chunkvo: From Qin to Song
Prerequisition: "History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty" [1]
Confucianism
Literature: "Analects of Confucius", "Zisi, The Doctrine of the Mean", "Mencius, The Mencius", "Xun Zi, Xunzi"
Five Classics
Prerequisition: "Confucianism"
Strategy (following the Writings of Sun Tzu)
Economy: Monetary economy - metal-based and banknote-based
Bureaucracy in the Hong Empire
Prerequisition: "Confucianism"
Courses about Science:
Mathematics
This week: The triangle of Yang Hui, the base for statistics
The phenomenon and the application of Electricity
Botanics: The Plants of Chunkvo, East Asia and Novorossiya
Astronomy and Astrology
Production and Handling of fireworkspowder [2]
[1] Yes, history is teached "backwards" - at first, students learn about the current China, and later go back in time.
[2] Gunpowder. This course is about applying explosives, as you can guess.
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Post by stevep on Nov 1, 2023 22:11:01 GMT
Courses offered at the university of Yenisseisk in the year 1845: Mandarin language (required course for all first-year students) Courses about Arts: The art of Gardening in Chunkvo The art of Painting in Chunkvo The art of Poetry in Chunkvo The art of Electroplating in Chunkvo The great Authors of Chunkvo The music of Chunkvo Courses about Society: History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty History of Chunkvo: From Qin to Song Prerequisition: " History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty" [1]Confucianism Literature: "Analects of Confucius", "Zisi, The Doctrine of the Mean", "Mencius, The Mencius", "Xun Zi, Xunzi" Five Classics Prerequisition: "Confucianism" Strategy (following the Writings of Sun Tzu) Economy: Monetary economy - metal-based and banknote-based Bureaucracy in the Hong Empire Prerequisition: "Confucianism" Courses about Science: Mathematics This week: The triangle of Yang Hui, the base for statistics The phenomenon and the application of Electricity Botanics: The Plants of Chunkvo, East Asia and Novorossiya Astronomy and Astrology Production and Handling of fireworkspowder [2] [1] Yes, history is teached "backwards" - at first, students learn about the current China, and later go back in time. [2] Gunpowder. This course is about applying explosives, as you can guess.
That suggests that the Hong are still in charge of China which would make it by some way the longest lasting Chinese dynasty. Considering most dynasties also had a fairly long period of decline and increasing chaos before their final extinction and it sounds like its still going strong as well as modernizing somewhat that makes it even more dramatic.
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Post by 575 on Nov 2, 2023 9:16:39 GMT
"History of Atlantean Slavery", by Citizen John Worker [1], New English Press, Liverpool 1901 When the Spaniards conquered Morocco in the 1420s, they set up a harsh feudal regime directed to oppress the natives forever. The new settlers were only a minority there, even including the Europeans who lived there before the conquest [2], and the few muslims who became christians - at least then, because today the Arabs and Berbers are just a suppressed minority in their own country. [...] Morocco became the most important source for slaves, especially after the Quadruple Monarchy started to found colonies in Atlantis. Whenever a village, a city or a county rebelled against Spanish rule, the servants of the king and the church would apply the same procedure: All men old enough to carry a weapon (even nine- and ten-year-old boys) were made slaves for the galleys, the gold mines in Atlantis, or worse, the quicksilver mines in Spain proper. Women young enough to bear childs were christianized by force and married to the male colonists in Morocco and Atlantis, while the older women became household slaves. All children old enough not to need their mother were brought into the orphanages of the church, where those who survived their time were educated to become fanatical christians. [...] In the colonies, the muslim slaves formed the lowest class of the society. Even the black slaves were treated better, since they were christianized, and would look down to their fellow sufferers. [...] The ibnatun [3], being muslimas who continued to practice their religion despite religious persecution and the occasional burning. The few of them who escaped to the Atlanteans, or were robbed by them, brought them their religion (watered down) too - Atlantean tribes like the Miskito or the Apache would start to believe in the one god in the sky, pray to the east five times a day and go to "Jihad". The suras of the Quran were mixed with the old songs; warriors and chiefs would take Arab sobriquets ( al-Mumit, the killer; al-Hakam, the judge) and fast for one lunar month before important occasions (coming to adulthood, etc). [...] [1] Probable a pseudonym, maybe by a foreign author too. [2] Read: Liberated European slaves. The Spaniards were harsh ITTL Morocco, but the Muslims weren't perfect either. [3] "Daughters", short for "Daughters of Allah". The religion was mostly passed on from mother to daughter, but rarely to sons, probably because women were considered less dangerous than the male muslims. The interesting thing is that this is how's was done during the Crusades in the Baltic and Iberia - from my reading of Danish and Portuguese Crusades. Of course Monastries and other Church instituations had their own slaves to till the ground and do hard work which of course over time changed to tenants though being able to buy themselves out of slavery/tenancy. |
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 4, 2023 19:03:58 GMT
"Wan Tu [1] [2] - the weekly column", from "Kicki - the magazine for girls", edited in Dresden, Germany, 19. 4. 1983
Hello girls! Yes, we've got something new for you in the world of 10,000 pics again: A new masterpiece by our revered artist Gao Ying, whom you all know from his last work "Xie Bingying and the secret of the bamboo forests"! This time, he will send his characters on a journey to the lands of the Westerners: The young noble Mao Polou goes on a Treasure Ship to the city of Cairo, where he'll go through an unbelievable adventure together with his friends, the Nipponese Mugio Enomoto, and their Omani bodyguard Hakim! While in Cairo, thieves will steal an idol from the captain's family heirloom, which the three friends have to retrieve. During that mission, Mao Polou will encounter the young French Isabeau... but don't show that to your parents! [...]
All in all, the 160 pages of the story are the ten Th [3] worth. "The journey to the Delta" now available - don't miss it!
[1] Chinese for "Ten Thousand Images". TTL's equivalent for OTL's Manga/Anime boom. These Chinese comics draw a lot of their style from traditional Chinese theater - e.g. all characters have colored faces in the Wan Tu, depending not on their race but on the role of their character in the story (gods always have yellow faces, evil spirits green faces) or, more recently, depending on their current mood.
[2] Yes, this gives the term "One-Two Punches" a complete new meaning...
[3] Abbrev. for "Thaler", the German currency. Approx. value: US$ 2.50.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 4, 2023 19:31:08 GMT
"The history of the science of statistics [1] under the latter Hong", by Soong Qian
Under the reign of the emperor [2], the province of Shaanxi suffered under a bad famine after the worst earthquake China had ever seen. It came to the ears of the emperor that there had been irregularities concerning the distribution of rice among the population. The scholars of the Hong empire were sent to investigate the situation. Based on the works of Yanghui, they developed several new mathematical methods to find out mistakes or outright offenses of government officials. By calculating the average of given data and carefully examining them for deviations, they were able to discover many committed irregularities, despite not having insight in the procedures proper. Their successes came as a surprise for everyone involved. [...]
This new science gave the Hong administration the possibility to improve government work in many ways. It came into use for collecting taxes, for controlling troop commanders, and was also used during the colonization of the new island provinces [3]. Private entrepreneurs also used statistics, for controlling the quality of the production of manufactures. [...]
[1] In Chinese: "Error-finding calculations"
[2] The characters in the manuscript are barely readable... I guess not even Hendryk could say what they mean.
[3] OTL Philippines. Also called "Ma-i".
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 5, 2023 1:58:00 GMT
Courses offered at the university of Yenisseisk in the year 1845: Mandarin language (required course for all first-year students) Courses about Arts: The art of Gardening in Chunkvo The art of Painting in Chunkvo The art of Poetry in Chunkvo The art of Electroplating in Chunkvo The great Authors of Chunkvo The music of Chunkvo Courses about Society: History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty History of Chunkvo: From Qin to Song Prerequisition: " History of Chunkvo: The Hong dynasty" [1]Confucianism Literature: "Analects of Confucius", "Zisi, The Doctrine of the Mean", "Mencius, The Mencius", "Xun Zi, Xunzi" Five Classics Prerequisition: "Confucianism" Strategy (following the Writings of Sun Tzu) Economy: Monetary economy - metal-based and banknote-based Bureaucracy in the Hong Empire Prerequisition: "Confucianism" Courses about Science: Mathematics This week: The triangle of Yang Hui, the base for statistics The phenomenon and the application of Electricity Botanics: The Plants of Chunkvo, East Asia and Novorossiya Astronomy and Astrology Production and Handling of fireworkspowder [2] [1] Yes, history is teached "backwards" - at first, students learn about the current China, and later go back in time. [2] Gunpowder. This course is about applying explosives, as you can guess.
That suggests that the Hong are still in charge of China which would make it by some way the longest lasting Chinese dynasty. Considering most dynasties also had a fairly long period of decline and increasing chaos before their final extinction and it sounds like its still going strong as well as modernizing somewhat that makes it even more dramatic.
They will, yes. You are correct in that IOTL, dynasties didn't survive for much more than 300 years. But where's the proof that this is like a law of science?
"History of Atlantean Slavery", by Citizen John Worker [1], New English Press, Liverpool 1901 When the Spaniards conquered Morocco in the 1420s, they set up a harsh feudal regime directed to oppress the natives forever. The new settlers were only a minority there, even including the Europeans who lived there before the conquest [2], and the few muslims who became christians - at least then, because today the Arabs and Berbers are just a suppressed minority in their own country. [...] Morocco became the most important source for slaves, especially after the Quadruple Monarchy started to found colonies in Atlantis. Whenever a village, a city or a county rebelled against Spanish rule, the servants of the king and the church would apply the same procedure: All men old enough to carry a weapon (even nine- and ten-year-old boys) were made slaves for the galleys, the gold mines in Atlantis, or worse, the quicksilver mines in Spain proper. Women young enough to bear childs were christianized by force and married to the male colonists in Morocco and Atlantis, while the older women became household slaves. All children old enough not to need their mother were brought into the orphanages of the church, where those who survived their time were educated to become fanatical christians. [...] In the colonies, the muslim slaves formed the lowest class of the society. Even the black slaves were treated better, since they were christianized, and would look down to their fellow sufferers. [...] The ibnatun [3], being muslimas who continued to practice their religion despite religious persecution and the occasional burning. The few of them who escaped to the Atlanteans, or were robbed by them, brought them their religion (watered down) too - Atlantean tribes like the Miskito or the Apache would start to believe in the one god in the sky, pray to the east five times a day and go to "Jihad". The suras of the Quran were mixed with the old songs; warriors and chiefs would take Arab sobriquets ( al-Mumit, the killer; al-Hakam, the judge) and fast for one lunar month before important occasions (coming to adulthood, etc). [...] [1] Probable a pseudonym, maybe by a foreign author too. [2] Read: Liberated European slaves. The Spaniards were harsh ITTL Morocco, but the Muslims weren't perfect either. [3] "Daughters", short for "Daughters of Allah". The religion was mostly passed on from mother to daughter, but rarely to sons, probably because women were considered less dangerous than the male muslims. The interesting thing is that this is how's was done during the Crusades in the Baltic and Iberia - from my reading of Danish and Portuguese Crusades. Of course Monastries and other Church instituations had their own slaves to till the ground and do hard work which of course over time changed to tenants though being able to buy themselves out of slavery/tenancy. After all, nobody wants to stay a slave forever, if there's a way out...
PS: In future, I'll post just one story per main TL post. For no other reason that both threads are in sync now.
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Post by stevep on Nov 5, 2023 10:19:08 GMT
That suggests that the Hong are still in charge of China which would make it by some way the longest lasting Chinese dynasty. Considering most dynasties also had a fairly long period of decline and increasing chaos before their final extinction and it sounds like its still going strong as well as modernizing somewhat that makes it even more dramatic.
They will, yes. You are correct in that IOTL, dynasties didn't survive for much more than 300 years. But where's the proof that this is like a law of science?
The interesting thing is that this is how's was done during the Crusades in the Baltic and Iberia - from my reading of Danish and Portuguese Crusades. Of course Monastries and other Church instituations had their own slaves to till the ground and do hard work which of course over time changed to tenants though being able to buy themselves out of slavery/tenancy. After all, nobody wants to stay a slave forever, if there's a way out...
PS: In future, I'll post just one story per main TL post. For no other reason that both threads are in sync now.
200-300 years seems about the limit for major empires, without drastic changes that pretty much re-write their identities totally. Not just talking about China here but just about everywhere. Some like Rome or Byzantium might on paper last longer as a recognised state but that tends to hide drastic changes over time, let alone more frequent dynastic changes.
I think basically ruling elites and systems get complacent and also corrupt, becoming too interested in internal struggles for power and forget that their position relies on providing a decent life for the populations of their state. In China there's the classic example of this with the concept of the "mandate of heaven". This tends to prompt internal unrest and local groups or lords/generals challenging the central power, often with frequent periods of prolonged disorder and internal conflict - such as the Third Century Crisis in Roman history - until a new level of unity and stability is formed under a strong leader.
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Post by 575 on Nov 5, 2023 14:24:51 GMT
They will, yes. You are correct in that IOTL, dynasties didn't survive for much more than 300 years. But where's the proof that this is like a law of science?
After all, nobody wants to stay a slave forever, if there's a way out...
PS: In future, I'll post just one story per main TL post. For no other reason that both threads are in sync now.
200-300 years seems about the limit for major empires, without drastic changes that pretty much re-write their identities totally. Not just talking about China here but just about everywhere. Some like Rome or Byzantium might on paper last longer as a recognised state but that tends to hide drastic changes over time, let alone more frequent dynastic changes.
I think basically ruling elites and systems get complacent and also corrupt, becoming too interested in internal struggles for power and forget that their position relies on providing a decent life for the populations of their state. In China there's the classic example of this with the concept of the "mandate of heaven". This tends to prompt internal unrest and local groups or lords/generals challenging the central power, often with frequent periods of prolonged disorder and internal conflict - such as the Third Century Crisis in Roman history - until a new level of unity and stability is formed under a strong leader.
My first thought - oh come on I have a long lasting state in mind and then on second thought..
We know/assumed Denmarks been around as a united entity since at ealy 2-300 lasting till 536. Then a new state emerges from the Fimbulwinther though this take some 150-200 years. From about 700 we have at least some rulers names and a nation known to litterate neighbours (Franks). Then 940? a new dynasty emerge in Jelling, Jutland which manage to hold onto power till today. BUT during the Middleages we have a succession of long civil wars mainly within the Royal Family branches for the throne really only ending about 1536 with the Reformation. That time untill 1536 is full of strife for power by Royalty and Magnates at times German Holstein Dukes too. Following the Reformation the Magnates resume the strife for power only ending 1661 with Absoluted Monarchy. Absolute Monarchy only keep going to 1849 when a Constitution is given but Parliament controlled by the Monarch electing his Government. This come to an end by 1920 with the Easter Crisis when Parliamentary superiority/negotiating decide who will wield power.
So even in civilized Europe power is a constant change of hands.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 9, 2023 3:06:52 GMT
They will, yes. You are correct in that IOTL, dynasties didn't survive for much more than 300 years. But where's the proof that this is like a law of science?
After all, nobody wants to stay a slave forever, if there's a way out...
PS: In future, I'll post just one story per main TL post. For no other reason that both threads are in sync now.
200-300 years seems about the limit for major empires, without drastic changes that pretty much re-write their identities totally. Not just talking about China here but just about everywhere. Some like Rome or Byzantium might on paper last longer as a recognised state but that tends to hide drastic changes over time, let alone more frequent dynastic changes.
I think basically ruling elites and systems get complacent and also corrupt, becoming too interested in internal struggles for power and forget that their position relies on providing a decent life for the populations of their state. In China there's the classic example of this with the concept of the "mandate of heaven". This tends to prompt internal unrest and local groups or lords/generals challenging the central power, often with frequent periods of prolonged disorder and internal conflict - such as the Third Century Crisis in Roman history - until a new level of unity and stability is formed under a strong leader.
True, but yet there's no hard-scientific proof that it has to be that way. I guess we'd have to dig deep into psychology (the usable part of it), biology of the brain and some other sciences and connect them the right way to get an actual proof.
But for now, a new story: (entry from the Welt-Enzyklopädie, 1932:)
Ruiz Rodriguez, Alejandro Enrique (* 29. 4. 1578 in Alcázar de San Juan, Spanish province of La Mancha, + 2. 7. 1655): Although being generally acknowledged as Spain's greatest writer and last representative of the style of Occidentalismo, little is known about his life. Before the Castillian Civil War (1628-34) he didn't make a big appearance in history, and only few of his works from this time have survived. During the Civil War, his star suddenly rose, after his plays became popular at the court of the Duke of Aliaga and later king of Spain, Alfonso XII. Later they would spread through the rest of Spanish society, making his works the integral part of Spanish culture they are today. [...]
The "Bible plays" are considered the apex of R.R.'s work; starting with Saul (1639), going over David (1643/45/48) and Solomon (1652/54) and finally Rehabeam (1657). The beauty of their language combines complex characterisation, poetic grandeur and philosophical depth, while at the same time keeping popular appeal and getting the vernacular into high literature [...]
Since his death, historians, literary experts and linguists have wondered about the authorship of R.R.; his Bible Plays display a familiarity with the vie de l'âme [1] of the depicted Royals that is uncanny even for a member of the court, so there are theories proposing that the plays of R.R. were really authored by Alfonso XII, his daughter Maria or their confessor, Padre de Argote, a converted Jew (see also the works "Alfonso XII and king Solomon - a comparison" or "Empires falling apart: Henry VI and Rehabeam"). [...]
[1] lit. "Life of the soul"; i.e. psyche or inner life.
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Post by stevep on Nov 9, 2023 13:12:18 GMT
200-300 years seems about the limit for major empires, without drastic changes that pretty much re-write their identities totally. Not just talking about China here but just about everywhere. Some like Rome or Byzantium might on paper last longer as a recognised state but that tends to hide drastic changes over time, let alone more frequent dynastic changes.
I think basically ruling elites and systems get complacent and also corrupt, becoming too interested in internal struggles for power and forget that their position relies on providing a decent life for the populations of their state. In China there's the classic example of this with the concept of the "mandate of heaven". This tends to prompt internal unrest and local groups or lords/generals challenging the central power, often with frequent periods of prolonged disorder and internal conflict - such as the Third Century Crisis in Roman history - until a new level of unity and stability is formed under a strong leader.
True, but yet there's no hard-scientific proof that it has to be that way. I guess we'd have to dig deep into psychology (the usable part of it), biology of the brain and some other sciences and connect them the right way to get an actual proof.
But for now, a new story: (entry from the Welt-Enzyklopädie, 1932:)
Ruiz Rodriguez, Alejandro Enrique (* 29. 4. 1578 in Alcázar de San Juan, Spanish province of La Mancha, + 2. 7. 1655): Although being generally acknowledged as Spain's greatest writer and last representative of the style of Occidentalismo, little is known about his life. Before the Castillian Civil War (1628-34) he didn't make a big appearance in history, and only few of his works from this time have survived. During the Civil War, his star suddenly rose, after his plays became popular at the court of the Duke of Aliaga and later king of Spain, Alfonso XII. Later they would spread through the rest of Spanish society, making his works the integral part of Spanish culture they are today. [...]
The "Bible plays" are considered the apex of R.R.'s work; starting with Saul (1639), going over David (1643/45/48) and Solomon (1652/54) and finally Rehabeam (1657). The beauty of their language combines complex characterisation, poetic grandeur and philosophical depth, while at the same time keeping popular appeal and getting the vernacular into high literature [...]
Since his death, historians, literary experts and linguists have wondered about the authorship of R.R.; his Bible Plays display a familiarity with the vie de l'âme [1] of the depicted Royals that is uncanny even for a member of the court, so there are theories proposing that the plays of R.R. were really authored by Alfonso XII, his daughter Maria or their confessor, Padre de Argote, a converted Jew (see also the works "Alfonso XII and king Solomon - a comparison" or "Empires falling apart: Henry VI and Rehabeam"). [...]
[1] lit. "Life of the soul"; i.e. psyche or inner life.
Well I won't push it further as your clearly made up your mind and it sounds like there's a lot more to come on the issue but I will point out that absence of proof is not proof of absence. There's no hard scientific law restricting the length of a dynasty or government system's life without drastic changes that we know of. However the evidence that such a limit exists is sizeable and I know of no clear example of the opposite being the case.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 11, 2023 19:19:44 GMT
True, but yet there's no hard-scientific proof that it has to be that way. I guess we'd have to dig deep into psychology (the usable part of it), biology of the brain and some other sciences and connect them the right way to get an actual proof.
But for now, a new story: (entry from the Welt-Enzyklopädie, 1932:)
Ruiz Rodriguez, Alejandro Enrique (* 29. 4. 1578 in Alcázar de San Juan, Spanish province of La Mancha, + 2. 7. 1655): Although being generally acknowledged as Spain's greatest writer and last representative of the style of Occidentalismo, little is known about his life. Before the Castillian Civil War (1628-34) he didn't make a big appearance in history, and only few of his works from this time have survived. During the Civil War, his star suddenly rose, after his plays became popular at the court of the Duke of Aliaga and later king of Spain, Alfonso XII. Later they would spread through the rest of Spanish society, making his works the integral part of Spanish culture they are today. [...]
The "Bible plays" are considered the apex of R.R.'s work; starting with Saul (1639), going over David (1643/45/48) and Solomon (1652/54) and finally Rehabeam (1657). The beauty of their language combines complex characterisation, poetic grandeur and philosophical depth, while at the same time keeping popular appeal and getting the vernacular into high literature [...]
Since his death, historians, literary experts and linguists have wondered about the authorship of R.R.; his Bible Plays display a familiarity with the vie de l'âme [1] of the depicted Royals that is uncanny even for a member of the court, so there are theories proposing that the plays of R.R. were really authored by Alfonso XII, his daughter Maria or their confessor, Padre de Argote, a converted Jew (see also the works "Alfonso XII and king Solomon - a comparison" or "Empires falling apart: Henry VI and Rehabeam"). [...]
[1] lit. "Life of the soul"; i.e. psyche or inner life.
Well I won't push it further as your clearly made up your mind and it sounds like there's a lot more to come on the issue but I will point out that absence of proof is not proof of absence. There's no hard scientific law restricting the length of a dynasty or government system's life without drastic changes that we know of. However the evidence that such a limit exists is sizeable and I know of no clear example of the opposite being the case.
As said, this isn't hard science in any case, but here's some counter-example from OTL: The Arsakides dynasty of the Parthian empire, coming close to 500 years.
As long as neither Mongols nor Europeans nor Russians are strong enough to interfere in China, there's no danger that one of their dynasties will fall because of an external power. Internal decay, that's a possibility...
Now a new story:
From a travel guide for Braunau, Bezirk Straubing, Großraum Bayern (1951):
From 1508 until the Peace of Krems in 1574, Braunau was occupied by the Seljuks, who turned the city of St Boniface into a Mosque and harassed the Christian population in every possible way. [...]
At the Bahnhofplatz a monument for the victims of the Bavarian-Austrian revolt in 1530 was erected. The population celebrates the anniversary of the start of the revolt on September 28th, which is called "Braunauer Erntedankfest" [1]. [...]
In the Laaber Straße 41 you can visit the museum of the occupation time, where the trophies of the First French-Seljuk War are exhibited. The museum has currently 274 pieces on display, including 83 weapons (note the cannon placed on the forecourt) and 39 official documents. The museum is opened for visitors every day but Tuesday from 8.00 to 17.30, except during the second half of December. [...]
(One little remark: The travel guide doesn't tell about it, but there's been once a commemorational tablet for the French general Loudon in Braunau. It was removed during the German War of Unification.)
[1] German for Thanksgiving.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 16, 2023 1:03:10 GMT
An analysis of the pre-1700 immigration into Atlantis [1], by Kraft Buxbinder, University of Silberstadt, 1879
Before the Dutch were ousted from Atlantis, their colonies were also settled by people from various other German-speaking lands, who made up almost one half of the population. The analysis of the origin of the immigration ships who went to Nieuw Amsterdam shows that settlers came almost exclusively from the lands along the Rhine (Rhinelanders proper, Westphalians, Hessians and Nassauer, Swabians and Lorrainians, even Franconians and Swiss, despite of the decepting name of Braunschweig's colony Waldstätten), which was expectable. The other stream of immigrants, going to Martinsburg, came from the people living along Weser, Elbe, Oder and Vistula - Lower and Upper Saxons, Thuringians, Brandenburgers, Pomeranians and Prussians. In addition, there were the Scandinavian immigrants, going mostly to Anderland, and the old population, mostly of Norwegian stock. [...]
The short episode of Poland owning Haraldsborg brought an immigration of several thousand Poles to the city, who continued as a community even after the conquest by England and later by Braunschweig-Denmark. For the Poles settling in the New World later, Haraldsborg stayed the first address, and even today they have left their traces in the city and throughout Atlantis. [...]
[1] They speak of Atlantis, as if they were talking about the whole double continent, but in fact this seems to be only about a small part of it...
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 18, 2023 18:17:38 GMT
Constitution of Novorossiya, 1638:
1. Every city in the lands elects its own vyetje and sends two representatives to the Central Vyetje in Yeniseysk. The representatives have to act as advised by their home vyetjes, but are free in their decisions about any topics they didn't get an advice about how to vote.
2. The Central Vyetje decides about the budget and new laws to be made. Simple majority decides.
3. A town that wants to be represented in the Central Vyetje has to be acknowledged by at least three of the Old Cities [1].
4. The country-wide decisions are made by the collegia. Each collegium consists of ten men elected by the Central Vyetje for their abilities. There's one collegium for the army, one for foreign politics, one for trade, one for finances, one for laws and justice, and one for post riders.
5. Each collegium elects a speaker (with two-thirds majority) who has two votes in every collegial decision.
6. Each city arms a militia for defensive purposes; all cities pay together for the national army, under the command of the army collegium. There have to be armies for every part of the border. [2]
7. The serfdom and the monarchy are abolished.
8. To amend the constitution, three quarters of the Old Cities and three quarters of all cities have to accept it.
[1] i.e. cities represented in the Central Vyetje of 1638.
[2] In the 17th century, the army was divided into the Ural Army in the west, the Ob Army in the South, the Yenisey Army in the Central, the Amur Army in the East (incl. Alyeska), and the Navy. In addition, there are/were the Free Dvoryans who control the vast North.
PS: Misspelt "Yenisey" in the past.
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