For the Want of a King TL

[lordroel]

Mar 15, 2016 19:56:22 GMT ankh said:

Mar 15, 2016 19:16:04 GMT lordroel said:

Well one thing the French can do is begin supporting the Prinsgezinden (Royalists) over the Staatsgezinden (Republicans), if they are successful and the rivalry between those two sides end up hot enough, maybe the French in a pretext of preserving the stability of the republic invade and install a pro-french king in the country (like the kingdom of Holland) but than with a family member of the French King or if the want to make Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange the king, that is if he want to become a french puppet king. 

Very interesting. The next update is in the pipeline.

The problem is however that Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange leads a pro-British faction, the pro-French faction in his government might get stronger if they get the backing of the French which will say confrontation with the Staatsgezinden (Republicans) who might want to turn the republic into something like the NRA and the URCN, a country with a true elected head of state instead of some one that is not even a king of a country as it is now.

[ankh]

Mar 15, 2016 20:04:00 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 15, 2016 19:56:22 GMT ankh said:

Very interesting. The next update is in the pipeline.

The problem is however that Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange leads a pro-British faction, the pro-French faction in his government might get stronger if they get the backing of the French which will say confrontation with the Staatsgezinden (Republicans) who might want to turn the republic into something like the NRA and the URCN, a country with a true elected head of state instead of some one that is not even a king of a country as it is now.

Come on mate just go and write a guest feature on the Netherlands for me.

[lordroel]

Mar 15, 2016 20:24:45 GMT ankh said:

Mar 15, 2016 20:04:00 GMT lordroel said:

The problem is however that Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange leads a pro-British faction, the pro-French faction in his government might get stronger if they get the backing of the French which will say confrontation with the Staatsgezinden (Republicans) who might want to turn the republic into something like the NRA and the URCN, a country with a true elected head of state instead of some one that is not even a king of a country as it is now.

Come on mate just go and write a guest feature on the Netherlands for me.

Problem is writing like you is not my best thing, i am more a timeline author, would love to but imstead i can help you whanever you need to know something about my country.

[ankh]

Mar 15, 2016 20:32:00 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 15, 2016 20:24:45 GMT ankh said:

Come on mate just go and write a guest feature on the Netherlands for me.

Problem is writing like you is not my best thing, i am more a timeline author, would love to but imstead i can help you whanever you need to know something about my country.

Well fair enough. Your help will be useful anyways. Thanks!

[lordroel]

Mar 15, 2016 20:53:59 GMT ankh said:

Mar 15, 2016 20:32:00 GMT lordroel said:

Problem is writing like you is not my best thing, i am more a timeline author, would love to but imstead i can help you whanever you need to know something about my country.

Well fair enough. Your help will be useful anyways. Thanks!

No problem, that why we are here for, to help fellow members make the best timelines as possible.

[ankh]

Interlude 4: The Decade of Peace 1772-1782:
After the Treaty of Munich was signed, Empress Maria Theresa decided the time was right for further reforms, however she died in 1773 before any of her reforms could be introduced. Her son Joseph II decided to continue his mother’s reforms, but on an even grander scale. One of the most controversial, at least amongst the nobility, was his complete abolition of serfdom in 1775. He also pursued an aggressive policy of centralising, not only in terms of bringing the empire together, but in terms of strengthening the power of the Emperor in nation at the expense of the nobility’s. He also pushed through numerous other reforms such as compulsory education, religious toleration, making German the Empire’s official language and others. The result was that by 1778, just 5 years after he came to the throne Joseph II had made Austria a strong, centralised and advanced state. The emergence of Vienna as the centre of the European Enlightenment following the exodus of French thinkers in Paris during the Great Movement, was a major influence in Joseph II’s reforms. Not everyone in the empire approved of Joseph’s actions however. Many in the nobility felt cheated and resolved to check the future pace of reform and in the eastern parts of the Empire the decrease in the Hungarian Assembly’s power angered many. These reforms, despite the anger that some of them caused, greatly eased the impact of the 6 Year’s War on the people of Austria.


Joseph II of Austria

Meanwhile in France the death of Louis XV in 1773 brought to an end a 68 year reign. During this time Louis XV had done little to help the French. Whilst he had, temporarily, gained British Canada and secured the long hoped for Austrian Netherlands he had engaged the French in two major wars and one minor one. The War of Sardinian Succession had seen France gain British Canada, which they then lost, along with New France, in the Canadian Revolution. The 6 Year’s War was more fruitful for the French, despite the loss of New France, as it saw the gain of the Austrian Netherlands. Despite this significant gain much of the populace were angered by Louis XV’s rule. The three wars he took French into lead to a dramatic rise in taxes, bringing more suffering on the poor of France. Fortunately for Louis XV the Great Movement between 1752 and 1759 meant that he faced no serious, organised, opposition. However this spelled doom for Louis XV’s successor. Following his father’s death Louis XV’s son Louis came to the throne as Louis XVI (OOC: this is Louis XV’s son, who has not died of tuberculosis ITTL), Louis XVI was a far more liberal minded king than his father and set forth a series of reforms. However, the French nobles opposed these reforms, happy as they were with serfdom, largely because it gave them a supply of free labour. The clock was now clearly ticking for the French monarchy.


Louis XVI of France

The situation in Prussia was significantly better than that faced by France. Fredrick William II’s emphasis on the arts had meant that Prussian involvement in the 6 Year’s War had been small. This allowed Prussia to continue to develop as centre of culture and philosophy whilst its main rivals in that field were recovering from the war. Even Austria whose troubles were limited by Joseph II’s reforms would lag behind Prussia by 1782. Frederick II also took this opportunity to spend more money on turning the Prussian navy and, ultimately, to set up a Prussian East India Company in Konigsberg. 

Meanwhile in the Netherlands things were rather less peaceful than in the rest of Europe. The gain of the Austrian Netherlands by the French was troubling for the Dutch, because the French now have a clear path to invade and take over the Netherlands. On top that the rivalry between Republican and Orangist factions had caused significant internal strife for many years. The nation of the Netherlands was in real trouble in 1772, but fortunately for the nation the seizing of the Austrian Netherlands forced the Republicans and Orangists to set aside their differences to hold the country together. This bond was fragile, though, and the threat of further internal strife and even civil war was always on the cards.

The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was experiencing a major revival. Under Adam I and with Austrian guidance several reforms were put in place. Adam I removed the Golden Liberty of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and totally overhauled the nation’s Constitution to resemble that of Austria. However things took a blow in 1778 when Adam I died unexpectedly, aged 44, on the 21st May. He had only one child, Maria Anna Czartoryska, aged 10, who was pledged to be married to Archduke Charles Leopold of Austria (son of Maria Amalia of Austria and Duke Charles II August of Zweibrücken OOC: born after the POD), aged 12. Joseph II happy with his alliance with Polish-Lithuania support his nephew and niece-in-law-to-be’s claim to the throne of the commonwealth. However several Polish nobles opposed this, hoping to regain their Golden Liberty, and lead by Prince Karol Stanisław Radziwiłł they decided to kidnap the young Princess and seize control of the nation for themselves. The Radom Confederation, as it was known, that included Casimir Pulaski and Michał Jan Pac moved to smuggle away Maria Czartoryska on the 16th June 1778 but came across a large bodyguard around the Princess…

[lordroel]

Mar 19, 2016 11:33:09 GMT ankh said:

Meanwhile in the Netherlands things were rather less peaceful than in the rest of Europe. The gain of the Austrian Netherlands by the French was troubling for the Dutch, because the French now have a clear path to invade and take over the Netherlands. On top that the rivalry between Republican and Orangist factions had caused significant internal strife for many years. The nation of the Netherlands was in real trouble in 1772, but fortunately for the nation the seizing of the Austrian Netherlands forced the Republicans and Orangists to set aside their differences to hold the country together. This bond was fragile, though, and the threat of further internal strife and even civil war was always on the cards.

This is exactly what could have happen, a big force that unites two rival sides who hate France more than they hate each other

[ankh]

Mar 19, 2016 11:38:57 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 19, 2016 11:33:09 GMT ankh said:

Meanwhile in the Netherlands things were rather less peaceful than in the rest of Europe. The gain of the Austrian Netherlands by the French was troubling for the Dutch, because the French now have a clear path to invade and take over the Netherlands. On top that the rivalry between Republican and Orangist factions had caused significant internal strife for many years. The nation of the Netherlands was in real trouble in 1772, but fortunately for the nation the seizing of the Austrian Netherlands forced the Republicans and Orangists to set aside their differences to hold the country together. This bond was fragile, though, and the threat of further internal strife and even civil war was always on the cards.

This is exactly what could have happen, a big force that unites two rival sides who hate France more than they hate each other

Excellent, well I'm glad I got it right.

[lordroel]

Mar 19, 2016 11:52:26 GMT ankh said:

Mar 19, 2016 11:38:57 GMT lordroel said:

This is exactly what could have happen, a big force that unites two rival sides who hate France more than they hate each other

Excellent, well I'm glad I got it right.

Well i see several things that might happen in the republic.

- Wilhelmina of Prussia, Princess of Orange, wife of Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange who brother is King Frederick William II of Prussia. Wilhelmina is known to dominated her spouse and exerted both overt and covert influence on the politics of state and thus she might be able to change his pro-British view (William V is cousin to George III of the United Kingdom) into a a more pro-Prussian stance.

- The republic can sell the Netherlands island of Neterlands Timor to Prussia, this will bring hard currency to the republic which they can use to build forts along the border with France, modernize its navy and army. Prussia can use Timor as a base for their newly created Prussian East India Company.

[ankh]

Mar 19, 2016 14:21:37 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 19, 2016 11:52:26 GMT ankh said:

Excellent, well I'm glad I got it right.

Well i see several things that might happen in the republic.

- Wilhelmina of Prussia, Princess of Orange, wife of Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange who brother is King Frederick William II of Prussia. Wilhelmina is known to dominated her spouse and exerted both overt and covert influence on the politics of state and thus she might be able to change his pro-British view (William V is cousin to George III of the United Kingdom) into a a more pro-Prussian stance.

- The republic can sell the Netherlands island of Neterlands Timor to Prussia, this will bring hard currency to the republic which they can use to build forts along the border with France, modernize its navy and army. Prussia can use Timor as a base for their newly created Prussian East India Company.

Thanks lordroel, I'll remember that for the next part.

[lordroel]

Mar 21, 2016 9:52:32 GMT ankh said:

Mar 19, 2016 14:21:37 GMT lordroel said:

Well i see several things that might happen in the republic.

- Wilhelmina of Prussia, Princess of Orange, wife of Stadtholder of the Dutch Republic William V, Prince of Orange who brother is King Frederick William II of Prussia. Wilhelmina is known to dominated her spouse and exerted both overt and covert influence on the politics of state and thus she might be able to change his pro-British view (William V is cousin to George III of the United Kingdom) into a a more pro-Prussian stance.

- The republic can sell the Netherlands island of Netherlands Timor to Prussia, this will bring hard currency to the republic which they can use to build forts along the border with France, modernize its navy and army. Prussia can use Timor as a base for their newly created Prussian East India Company.

Thanks lordroel, I'll remember that for the next part.

The republic also had a governorate of the Dutch East India Company on the Coromandel Coast it was called Dutch Coromandel, if Prussia really wants to have a base of for their newly created Prussian East India Company and not so far away as  Netherlands Timor then if they mange to buy it from the republic, they will have really something that is worth wild if they devote time and effort in it.
 
Of course there are plenty other settlements and trading posts wich are part of Dutch India the Prussians can buy.

[ankh]

Mar 21, 2016 15:02:22 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 21, 2016 9:52:32 GMT ankh said:

Thanks lordroel, I'll remember that for the next part.

The republic also had a governorate of the Dutch East India Company on the Coromandel Coast it was called Dutch Coromandel, if Prussia really wants to have a base of for their newly created Prussian East India Company and not so far away as  Netherlands Timor then if they mange to buy it from the republic, they will have really something that is worth wild if they devote time and effort in it.
 
Of course there are plenty other settlements and trading posts wich are part of Dutch India the Prussians can buy.

Timor will do for now I reckon. The next update's nearly done, look forward to the Great American Revolution!

[lordroel]

Mar 21, 2016 16:25:27 GMT ankh said:

Mar 21, 2016 15:02:22 GMT lordroel said:

The republic also had a governorate of the Dutch East India Company on the Coromandel Coast it was called Dutch Coromandel, if Prussia really wants to have a base of for their newly created Prussian East India Company and not so far away as  Netherlands Timor then if they mange to buy it from the republic, they will have really something that is worth wild if they devote time and effort in it.
 
Of course there are plenty other settlements and trading posts wich are part of Dutch India the Prussians can buy.

Timor will do for now I reckon. The next update's nearly done, look forward to the Great American Revolution!

Wait i toughed there was already a American revolution which resulted in the creation of URA and the URCN, ore is this going to be something like them joining up but some factions do not like that and as a result a civil war erupts.

[ankh]

Mar 21, 2016 17:25:58 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 21, 2016 16:25:27 GMT ankh said:

Timor will do for now I reckon. The next update's nearly done, look forward to the Great American Revolution!

Wait i toughed there was already a American revolution which resulted in the creation of URA and the URCN, ore is this going to be something like them joining up but some factions do not like that and as a result a civil war erupts.

American as in the continent not the nation.

[lordroel]

Mar 21, 2016 17:45:50 GMT ankh said:

Mar 21, 2016 17:25:58 GMT lordroel said:

Wait i toughed there was already a American revolution which resulted in the creation of URA and the URCN, ore is this going to be something like them joining up but some factions do not like that and as a result a civil war erupts.

American as in the continent not the nation.

A oke, my fault.