Balance of Power

[stevep]

Good map and some interesting changes. I notice that Norway is a slightly different colour to Sweden. Are they still united or has that union ended earlier? [Or are they basically similar but different because a common monarchy, as I notice Finland and Poland, which are ruled by the Czar are slightly different shades to that for Russia?]

[bytor]

Feb 12, 2017 22:48:30 GMT stevep said:

Good map and some interesting changes. I notice that Norway is a slightly different colour to Sweden. Are they still united or has that union ended earlier? [Or are they basically similar but different because a common monarchy, as I notice Finland and Poland, which are ruled by the Czar are slightly different shades to that for Russia?]

Norway was only in personal union with Sweden, not actually part of it. The two states kept separate constitutions, laws, legislatures, administrations, state churches, armed forces, currencies and all of that. Finland and Poland are in a similar de jure situation with Russia, though the Tsar did not not respect that as much as Swedish monarchy did, especially in Poland.

I keep waffling on Poland because a decently sized minority of historians feel that had Chłopicki taken Mochnacki's advice during the 1830 November uprising and attacked Lithuania there's a good chance they could have freed themselves from Russia as they had raised well over 150,000 troops and the Russian Army at this time was horribly organized, not well trained and nowhere close to modernizing to even Napoleonic standards of logistics, tactics and strategy. They probably would have been slowly partitioned yet again, unless they could get British or French support. Given that portions of what are now Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania joined them, things could have been very different had the Poles just made better tactical choices instead of being so conservative.

[lordroel]

Feb 19, 2017 16:19:46 GMT bytor said:

Feb 12, 2017 22:48:30 GMT stevep said:

Good map and some interesting changes. I notice that Norway is a slightly different colour to Sweden. Are they still united or has that union ended earlier? [Or are they basically similar but different because a common monarchy, as I notice Finland and Poland, which are ruled by the Czar are slightly different shades to that for Russia?]

Norway was only in personal union with Sweden, not actually part of it. The two states kept separate constitutions, laws, legislatures, administrations, state churches, armed forces, currencies and all of that. Finland and Poland are in a similar de jure situation with Russia, though the Tsar did not not respect that as much as Swedish monarchy did, especially in Poland.

I keep waffling on Poland because a decently sized minority of historians feel that had Chłopicki taken Mochnacki's advice during the 1830 November uprising and attacked Lithuania there's a good chance they could have freed themselves from Russia as they had raised well over 150,000 troops and the Russian Army at this time was horribly organized, not well trained and nowhere close to modernizing to even Napoleonic standards of logistics, tactics and strategy. They probably would have been slowly partitioned yet again, unless they could get British or French support. Given that portions of what are now Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania joined them, things could have been very different had the Poles just made better tactical choices instead of being so conservative.

Question, is the Kingdom of Naples part of the Ottoman Empire in this universe as they have the same color it looks like.

[doug181]

Looks like it on map,I agree

[bytor]

Feb 19, 2017 16:23:15 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 19, 2017 16:19:46 GMT bytor said:

Norway was only in personal union with Sweden, not actually part of it. The two states kept separate constitutions, laws, legislatures, administrations, state churches, armed forces, currencies and all of that. Finland and Poland are in a similar de jure situation with Russia, though the Tsar did not not respect that as much as Swedish monarchy did, especially in Poland.

I keep waffling on Poland because a decently sized minority of historians feel that had Chłopicki taken Mochnacki's advice during the 1830 November uprising and attacked Lithuania there's a good chance they could have freed themselves from Russia as they had raised well over 150,000 troops and the Russian Army at this time was horribly organized, not well trained and nowhere close to modernizing to even Napoleonic standards of logistics, tactics and strategy. They probably would have been slowly partitioned yet again, unless they could get British or French support. Given that portions of what are now Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania joined them, things could have been very different had the Poles just made better tactical choices instead of being so conservative.

Question, is the Kingdom of Naples part of the Ottoman Empire in this universe as they have the same color it looks like.

The style is reminiscent of early 20th century maps like the Cambridge Modern History Atlas from 1911. In offset printing, each colour was printed by using a separate engraving plate. More colours meant more plates which meant more expense so different line hatching patterns were use to differentiate coloured areas as well as mimic shades & tints (i.e. they eye sees a more closely spaced pattern as darker, further apart as lighter). 


I noticed that I had set the wrong pattern in the Ottoman Empire after exporting to PNG, I just didn't feel like taking the time to make the change. :-)

[bytor]

This is the provincial flag of the Province of New Caledonia which joined Confederation on July 20th, 1871, along with the Province of Columbia. It consists of the provincia shield on a British Blue Ensign. The shield consists of St. Andrew's Cross for Caledonia, a.k.a. Scotland, the mountains which make up so much of its area, and the sun setting on the Pacific Ocean.

[lordroel]

Feb 20, 2017 17:27:41 GMT bytor said:

This is the provincial flag of the Province of New Caledonia which joined Confederation on July 20th, 1871, along with the Province of Columbia. It consists of the provincia shield on a British Blue Ensign. The shield consists of St. Andrew's Cross for Caledonia, a.k.a. Scotland, the mountains which make up so much of its area, and the sun setting on the Pacific Ocean.

Nice looking flag, is it a original ore one you designed yourself.

[doug181]

I agree really nice flag

[bytor]

Feb 20, 2017 17:36:57 GMT lordroel said:

Nice looking flag, is it a original ore one you designed yourself.

It is some OC some cut & paste. I used elements from the SVGs for the provincial flags of British Columbia and Alberta from Wikipedia. The Union Jack and Scottish St. Andrew's cross are my own work.

[lordroel]

Feb 21, 2017 2:15:48 GMT bytor said:

Feb 20, 2017 17:36:57 GMT lordroel said:

Nice looking flag, is it a original ore one you designed yourself.

It is some OC some cut & paste. I used elements from the SVGs for the provincial flags of British Columbia and Alberta from Wikipedia. The Union Jack and Scottish St. Andrew's cross are my own work.

Nice, are there more flags to come.

[bytor]

Feb 21, 2017 3:43:11 GMT lordroel said:

Nice, are there more flags to come.

I plan on doing flags for all the provinces and territories for the modern alt-Canada, as well as other nations, but that will happen as the muse is willing. :-)

[lordroel]

Feb 21, 2017 22:27:03 GMT bytor said:

Feb 21, 2017 3:43:11 GMT lordroel said:

Nice, are there more flags to come.

I plan on doing flags for all the provinces and territories for the modern alt-Canada, as well as other nations, but that will happen as the muse is willing. :-)

That is nice.

[bytor]

Europe 1871

[lordroel]

Mar 5, 2017 19:19:10 GMT bytor said:

Europe 1871

Another good map of Europe.

[bytor]

Here is the map of the German states in 1871 that was originally going to be an inset in the map of Europe.

Note that this is *not* the German Empire, which does not exist. These are de jure independent states, even if some of them might be puppets of the French Empire.
I'll put up some text in the next few days after I collate my notes into prose.