Toward a history of the siege of Changchun

[spanishspy]

Interesting if disheartening battle I had not heard of. Hopefully we get more in English.

[stevep]

Jan 17, 2018 21:52:06 GMT spanishspy said:

Interesting if disheartening battle I had not heard of. Hopefully we get more in English.

  I knew a little of the fighting in Manchuria but didn't realise the full scope of it.  Reading a couple of the links there it sounds like comunist China could have been largely crushed as late as that.

[lordroel]

Jan 17, 2018 21:52:06 GMT spanishspy said:

Interesting if disheartening battle I had not heard of. Hopefully we get more in English.

Well we might know little of it because the PRC prefers it that way and focus more on the horrors the Japanese did during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

[spanishspy]

Jan 18, 2018 4:37:41 GMT lordroel said:

Jan 17, 2018 21:52:06 GMT spanishspy said:

Interesting if disheartening battle I had not heard of. Hopefully we get more in English.

Well we might know little of it because the PRC prefers it that way and focus more on the horrors the Japanese did during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

Which likewise, unfortunately, are legion.

[lordroel]

Jan 18, 2018 14:40:26 GMT spanishspy said:

Jan 18, 2018 4:37:41 GMT lordroel said:

Well we might know little of it because the PRC prefers it that way and focus more on the horrors the Japanese did during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

Which likewise, unfortunately, are legion.

Here is a 9 year old New York Times article which says what we both agree on, the winner writes the history books : China Is Wordless on Traumas of Communists’ Rise

[spanishspy]

Jan 18, 2018 14:58:31 GMT lordroel said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:40:26 GMT spanishspy said:

Which likewise, unfortunately, are legion.

Here is a 9 year old New York Times article which says what we both agree on, the winner writes the history books : China Is Wordless on Traumas of Communists’ Rise

Quite the read - shocking, appalling, but not surprising.

[lordroel]

Jan 18, 2018 16:30:00 GMT spanishspy said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:58:31 GMT lordroel said:

Here is a 9 year old New York Times article which says what we both agree on, the winner writes the history books : China Is Wordless on Traumas of Communists’ Rise

Quite the read - shocking, appalling, but not surprising.

Here is another one: Siege of Changchun: Memories From a Communist Famine which starts with this, Starvation in encircled Chinese city killed more people than both atomic bombs
.

[stevep]

Jan 18, 2018 14:58:31 GMT lordroel said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:40:26 GMT spanishspy said:

Which likewise, unfortunately, are legion.

Here is a 9 year old New York Times article which says what we both agree on, the winner writes the history books : China Is Wordless on Traumas of Communists’ Rise

  Unfortunately can't read it this month as it looks like I've read too many NY Times' article this month and got to register to read more.

[lordroel]

Jan 18, 2018 17:39:53 GMT stevep said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:58:31 GMT lordroel said:

Here is a 9 year old New York Times article which says what we both agree on, the winner writes the history books : China Is Wordless on Traumas of Communists’ Rise

  Unfortunately can't read it this month as it looks like I've read too many NY Times' article this month and got to register to read more.

Well you are not the only one who has gone over his free NY Times articles for January 2018.