Soviet Domination - A Red Dawn story

[lukedalton]

Instant sunshine over the Soviet Union; and by this moment every nuclear armed nation worldwide will have started to prepare their weapon to launch and scatter them to avoid being eliminated.
Conventionally full mobilization will start almost immediately in Europe, Japan (if not already started due to the situation in South Korea), Australia and Israel and i expect bloody border fight from the Korean DMZ to Jugoslavia and Scandinavia, passing through Turkey and China...and this it's only the beginning

[lordroel]

May 2, 2018 22:01:59 GMT James G said:

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President Glenn, not ‘President Bentsen’, sent the first of two replies to Ustinov and the Soviet Union. The second would be delivered to a teleprinter in Moscow; the first would come by thermonuclear means.

America Strikes back, first part.

[Deleted]

So when is China getting nuked? Because according to USAF Col. Tanner, about 400 million "screamin' chinamen" got nuked. (Or am I getting ahead of myself here?)

Also, any chance for maps showing the front lines, nuclear detonation points and fallout?

[James G]

May 2, 2018 22:41:37 GMT lukedalton said:

Instant sunshine over the Soviet Union; and by this moment every nuclear armed nation worldwide will have started to prepare their weapon to launch and scatter them to avoid being eliminated.
Conventionally full mobilization will start almost immediately in Europe, Japan (if not already started due to the situation in South Korea), Australia and Israel and i expect bloody border fight from the Korean DMZ to Jugoslavia and Scandinavia, passing through Turkey and China...and this it's only the beginning

A lot of chaos and pandemonium will erupt worldwide. All sorts of madness will certainly occur.

May 3, 2018 2:42:19 GMT lordroel said:

America Strikes back, first part.

Certainly. Tonight!

May 3, 2018 4:08:11 GMT @theavalonproject said:

So when is China getting nuked? Because according to USAF Col. Tanner, about 400 million "screamin' chinamen" got nuked. (Or am I getting ahead of myself here?)

Also, any chance for maps showing the front lines, nuclear detonation points and fallout?

Getting far ahead of yourself, space pirate!
I can and will do maps as we go.
I'll also do a nukemap thing once the dust settles.

[stevep]

James

Agree that the US must strike back.  Both at strategic targets in the USSR and could also hit some civilian targets as the Soviets have, but they might avoid that. Very likely, if they realise that some attacks came from the south and that also an invasion is being mounted from there hitting some targets there. There would be a strong argument to really pound Cuba's military and leadership targets, both to hit the primary local enemy and also as a warning to other Soviet 'allies' which might prompt some of them to think again.

I wonder if they will let the Soviets know that Glenn has survived? Probably as the confusion it would cause the Soviets might not be worth the confusion potential in the US. However it would possibly delay further attacks on Glenn, at least until he gets to a safer location.

[lukedalton]

May 3, 2018 15:23:31 GMT stevep said:

James

Agree that the US must strike back.  Both at strategic targets in the USSR and could also hit some civilian targets as the Soviets have, but they might avoid that. Very likely, if they realise that some attacks came from the south and that also an invasion is being mounted from there hitting some targets there. There would be a strong argument to really pound Cuba's military and leadership targets, both to hit the primary local enemy and also as a warning to other Soviet 'allies' which might prompt some of them to think again.

I wonder if they will let the Soviets know that Glenn has survived? Probably as the confusion it would cause the Soviets might not be worth the confusion potential in the US. However it would possibly delay further attacks on Glenn, at least until he gets to a safer location.

Ironically, a limited mildly precision nuclear strike against the combloc will be much harder to pull off in this situation than an all out attack due to the confusion, chain of command disrupted and attack at both base and comunication hub; so it's much more probable some attack to well know bases in URSS territory, plus with Mexico (and lesser extent Cuba) there is the high risk of fallout.
I wonder why the URSS had not launched a simultaneous attack to the Chinese nuclear arsenal, for the future and just to be sure that they don't try something due to the fear to be the next while Moscow attention it's occupied with the USA

[James G]

May 3, 2018 15:23:31 GMT stevep said:

James

Agree that the US must strike back.  Both at strategic targets in the USSR and could also hit some civilian targets as the Soviets have, but they might avoid that. Very likely, if they realise that some attacks came from the south and that also an invasion is being mounted from there hitting some targets there. There would be a strong argument to really pound Cuba's military and leadership targets, both to hit the primary local enemy and also as a warning to other Soviet 'allies' which might prompt some of them to think again.

I wonder if they will let the Soviets know that Glenn has survived? Probably as the confusion it would cause the Soviets might not be worth the confusion potential in the US. However it would possibly delay further attacks on Glenn, at least until he gets to a safer location.

This is similar to what I have in mind on this matter of a return strike.
They think they got Glenn. You've just given me a brilliant idea there, one which I will put to use.

[lordroel]

May 3, 2018 16:41:26 GMT James G said:

May 3, 2018 15:23:31 GMT stevep said:

James

Agree that the US must strike back.  Both at strategic targets in the USSR and could also hit some civilian targets as the Soviets have, but they might avoid that. Very likely, if they realise that some attacks came from the south and that also an invasion is being mounted from there hitting some targets there. There would be a strong argument to really pound Cuba's military and leadership targets, both to hit the primary local enemy and also as a warning to other Soviet 'allies' which might prompt some of them to think again.

I wonder if they will let the Soviets know that Glenn has survived? Probably as the confusion it would cause the Soviets might not be worth the confusion potential in the US. However it would possibly delay further attacks on Glenn, at least until he gets to a safer location.

This is similar to what I have in mind on this matter of a return strike.
They think they got Glenn. You've just given me a brilliant idea there, one which I will put to use.

Well better Glenn then Kennedy to become a great wartime president.

[James G]

May 3, 2018 16:42:46 GMT lordroel said:

May 3, 2018 16:41:26 GMT James G said:

This is similar to what I have in mind on this matter of a return strike.
They think they got Glenn. You've just given me a brilliant idea there, one which I will put to use.

Well better Glenn then Kennedy to become a great wartime president.

Glenn will have his critics though.

[James G]

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17th September 1984:

There had been difficulties in getting into contact with elements of the country’s strategic missile arsenal due to those commando saboteurs which had been hitting communications sites. Regardless, there was still the ability to get though due to the multiple means of connecting the National Command Authority to those at the firing stations through back-up and redundancy links. The Soviet strikes on command-&-control had caused problems but not as many as they thought that they would be able to do. In addition, attacks on the ground – even the nuclear blasts – hadn’t affected the lone Looking Glass aircraft up in the sky. It was from that platform (the only one left after Ellsworth and Offutt had been hit) that the orders from the new president were passed onwards to strike back in retaliation. A missile squadron in Montana got their orders to begin launching some of their Minuteman ICBMs towards distant targets.

Three missiles made the over-the-pole trip and headed towards Leningrad, the Soviet Union’s second city. Each missile had a trio of warheads and they were released when the nosecones opened up in space to fire them at specific points on the earth below. They were each independently targeted, aimed against several targets inside and around Leningrad: political sites and military bases. Eight exploded with seven of those on-target. The blast yield of each was three hundred and forty kilotons. These were airborne explosions to make the best use of the nuclear weapons being used. Leningrad ceased to exist afterwards. The casualties were extraordinary.

Also going over the North Pole, leaving Malmstrom AFB far behind, were another fifteen missiles heading towards the southern end of the Ural Mountains. One Minuteman completely failed to deploy its trio of warheads and another hadn’t made it fully into orbit. Those warheads successfully employed came down around the Kartaly missile field. The warheads were targeted against the seven buried launch control centres for the ICBMs of the 59th Missile Division. That military headquarters controlled forty-six R-36Ms, what NATO called SS-18 Satans, but – as was the case with the Soviet attack on Minot’s missile field – only the control points for several missiles rather than the silos themselves came under attack. These were ground bursts this time though with the maximum yield employed from the warheads. A couple of mis-detonations occurred and a few were far off-target, but the use of so many warheads made up for all of that. Those SS-18s were rated as a first-strike weapon and the United States didn’t have anything like them. The ones at Kartaly wouldn’t be flying after this attack.

Another two Minuteman missiles were fired southwards. Their journey was far shorter than those which went north. Five explosions took place in the sky above the general area of Mexico City. As was the case with Leningrad, the city was full of civilians who were killed in extraordinary numbers by these huge detonations. Revolutionary Mexico had played host to Soviet nuclear missiles fired against the United States and paid the ultimate price for that.

The United States had many more missiles. There were other Minuteman ICBMs under SAC command at Malmstrom and more spread across bases Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming. The US Navy had its Poseidon- & Trident-armed missile submarines. Other nuclear weapons were in the inventory of the various branches of the US Armed Forces in the form of bombs, missiles and special artillery shells. These were spread all over the world. So much more destruction could have been caused than what was done with the attacks on Leningrad, Kartaly and Mexico City. However, the hope was that no more nuclear weapons needed to be used after this counter-strike.

[lordroel]

May 3, 2018 18:00:46 GMT James G said:

(153)

17th September 1984:

There had been difficulties in getting into contact with elements of the country’s strategic missile arsenal due to those commando saboteurs which had been hitting communications sites. Regardless, there was still the ability to get though due to the multiple means of connecting the National Command Authority to those at the firing stations through back-up and redundancy links. The Soviet strikes on command-&-control had caused problems but not as many as they thought that they would be able to do. In addition, attacks on the ground – even the nuclear blasts – hadn’t affected the lone Looking Glass aircraft up in the sky. It was from that platform (the only one left after Ellsworth and Offutt had been hit) that the orders from the new president were passed onwards to strike back in retaliation. A missile squadron in Montana got their orders to begin launching some of their Minuteman ICBMs towards distant targets.

Three missiles made the over-the-pole trip and headed towards Leningrad, the Soviet Union’s second city. Each missile had a trio of warheads and they were released when the nosecones opened up in space to fire them at specific points on the earth below. They were each independently targeted, aimed against several targets inside and around Leningrad: political sites and military bases. Eight exploded with seven of those on-target. The blast yield of each was three hundred and forty kilotons. These were airborne explosions to make the best use of the nuclear weapons being used. Leningrad ceased to exist afterwards. The casualties were extraordinary.

Also going over the North Pole, leaving Malmstrom AFB far behind, were another fifteen missiles heading towards the southern end of the Ural Mountains. One Minuteman completely failed to deploy its trio of warheads and another hadn’t made it fully into orbit. Those warheads successfully employed came down around the Kartaly missile field. The warheads were targeted against the seven buried launch control centres for the ICBMs of the 59th Missile Division. That military headquarters controlled forty-six R-36Ms, what NATO called SS-18 Satans, but – as was the case with the Soviet attack on Minot’s missile field – only the control points for several missiles rather than the silos themselves came under attack. These were ground bursts this time though with the maximum yield employed from the warheads. A couple of mis-detonations occurred and a few were far off-target, but the use of so many warheads made up for all of that. Those SS-18s were rated as a first-strike weapon and the United States didn’t have anything like them. The ones at Kartaly wouldn’t be flying after this attack.

Another two Minuteman missiles were fired southwards. Their journey was far shorter than those which went north. Five explosions took place in the sky above the general area of Mexico City. As was the case with Leningrad, the city was full of civilians who were killed in extraordinary numbers by these huge detonations. Revolutionary Mexico had played host to Soviet nuclear missiles fired against the United States and paid the ultimate price for that.

The United States had many more missiles. There were other Minuteman ICBMs under SAC command at Malmstrom and more spread across bases Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming. The US Navy had its Poseidon- & Trident-armed missile submarines. Other nuclear weapons were in the inventory of the various branches of the US Armed Forces in the form of bombs, missiles and special artillery shells. These were spread all over the world. So much more destruction could have been caused than what was done with the attacks on Leningrad, Kartaly and Mexico City. However, the hope was that no more nuclear weapons needed to be used after this counter-strike.

So the United States has send a dealy warning to the soviet Union, strike us again with nuclear weapons and we will show no mercy.

[James G]

May 3, 2018 18:03:06 GMT lordroel said:

May 3, 2018 18:00:46 GMT James G said:

(153)

17th September 1984:

There had been difficulties in getting into contact with elements of the country’s strategic missile arsenal due to those commando saboteurs which had been hitting communications sites. Regardless, there was still the ability to get though due to the multiple means of connecting the National Command Authority to those at the firing stations through back-up and redundancy links. The Soviet strikes on command-&-control had caused problems but not as many as they thought that they would be able to do. In addition, attacks on the ground – even the nuclear blasts – hadn’t affected the lone Looking Glass aircraft up in the sky. It was from that platform (the only one left after Ellsworth and Offutt had been hit) that the orders from the new president were passed onwards to strike back in retaliation. A missile squadron in Montana got their orders to begin launching some of their Minuteman ICBMs towards distant targets.

Three missiles made the over-the-pole trip and headed towards Leningrad, the Soviet Union’s second city. Each missile had a trio of warheads and they were released when the nosecones opened up in space to fire them at specific points on the earth below. They were each independently targeted, aimed against several targets inside and around Leningrad: political sites and military bases. Eight exploded with seven of those on-target. The blast yield of each was three hundred and forty kilotons. These were airborne explosions to make the best use of the nuclear weapons being used. Leningrad ceased to exist afterwards. The casualties were extraordinary.

Also going over the North Pole, leaving Malmstrom AFB far behind, were another fifteen missiles heading towards the southern end of the Ural Mountains. One Minuteman completely failed to deploy its trio of warheads and another hadn’t made it fully into orbit. Those warheads successfully employed came down around the Kartaly missile field. The warheads were targeted against the seven buried launch control centres for the ICBMs of the 59th Missile Division. That military headquarters controlled forty-six R-36Ms, what NATO called SS-18 Satans, but – as was the case with the Soviet attack on Minot’s missile field – only the control points for several missiles rather than the silos themselves came under attack. These were ground bursts this time though with the maximum yield employed from the warheads. A couple of mis-detonations occurred and a few were far off-target, but the use of so many warheads made up for all of that. Those SS-18s were rated as a first-strike weapon and the United States didn’t have anything like them. The ones at Kartaly wouldn’t be flying after this attack.

Another two Minuteman missiles were fired southwards. Their journey was far shorter than those which went north. Five explosions took place in the sky above the general area of Mexico City. As was the case with Leningrad, the city was full of civilians who were killed in extraordinary numbers by these huge detonations. Revolutionary Mexico had played host to Soviet nuclear missiles fired against the United States and paid the ultimate price for that.

The United States had many more missiles. There were other Minuteman ICBMs under SAC command at Malmstrom and more spread across bases Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming. The US Navy had its Poseidon- & Trident-armed missile submarines. Other nuclear weapons were in the inventory of the various branches of the US Armed Forces in the form of bombs, missiles and special artillery shells. These were spread all over the world. So much more destruction could have been caused than what was done with the attacks on Leningrad, Kartaly and Mexico City. However, the hope was that no more nuclear weapons needed to be used after this counter-strike.

So the United States has send a dealy warning to the soviet Union, strike us again with nuclear weapons and we will show no mercy.

The missiles will be followed with Hot-Line communication coming up in the next update (hopefully tonight).
Mexico also paid a terrible price... which was rather unfair in the grand scheme of things.

[lordroel]

May 3, 2018 18:10:22 GMT James G said:

May 3, 2018 18:03:06 GMT lordroel said:

So the United States has send a dealy warning to the soviet Union, strike us again with nuclear weapons and we will show no mercy.

The missiles will be followed with Hot-Line communication coming up in the next update (hopefully tonight).
Mexico also paid a terrible price... which was rather unfair in the grand scheme of things.

Well Mexico paid the price for joining the wrong side, bet i doubt they will switch now, they just got blasted by the Americans, they are with the Soviets until the end.

[Deleted]

May 3, 2018 7:44:28 GMT James G said:

May 2, 2018 22:41:37 GMT lukedalton said:

Instant sunshine over the Soviet Union; and by this moment every nuclear armed nation worldwide will have started to prepare their weapon to launch and scatter them to avoid being eliminated.
Conventionally full mobilization will start almost immediately in Europe, Japan (if not already started due to the situation in South Korea), Australia and Israel and i expect bloody border fight from the Korean DMZ to Jugoslavia and Scandinavia, passing through Turkey and China...and this it's only the beginning

A lot of chaos and pandemonium will erupt worldwide. All sorts of madness will certainly occur.

May 3, 2018 2:42:19 GMT lordroel said:

America Strikes back, first part.

Certainly. Tonight!

May 3, 2018 4:08:11 GMT @theavalonproject said:

So when is China getting nuked? Because according to USAF Col. Tanner, about 400 million "screamin' chinamen" got nuked. (Or am I getting ahead of myself here?)

Also, any chance for maps showing the front lines, nuclear detonation points and fallout?

Getting far ahead of yourself, space pirate!
I can and will do maps as we go.
I'll also do a nukemap thing once the dust settles.

 Yay!

[James G]

May 3, 2018 18:11:59 GMT lordroel said:

May 3, 2018 18:10:22 GMT James G said:

The missiles will be followed with Hot-Line communication coming up in the next update (hopefully tonight).
Mexico also paid a terrible price... which was rather unfair in the grand scheme of things.

Well Mexico paid the price for joining the wrong side, bet i doubt they will switch now, they just got blasted by the Americans, they are with the Soviets until the end.

Yeah, that is the way it will be. Mexico's civilians paid that price though.
Anyway, after this, there will be no more nuclear attacks (for the time being anyway - nothing is off the table for later).