Soviet/NATO invasion and nuclear targets across the world thread

[stevep]

Aug 4, 2021 7:23:39 GMT simon darkshade said:

During the 1960s inter-service wars on TSR-2, F-111 and the Bucc, Australia was shifted by 800 miles to the west to prove a point on one map.

  I don't think so unless they also moved New Guinea.  Its at the same location relative to Australia in a quick atlas check.

[gillan1220]

Probable targets in the CONUS during the 1950s.

〈insert pop-up content here〉

[lordroel]

Sept 24, 2021 5:03:09 GMT gillan1220 said:

Probable targets in the CONUS during the 1950s.

〈insert pop-up content here〉

Nice fund, now we need the Soviet Union one.

[lordroel]

Soviet Military Expansionism and post-Soviet revival: Soviet and Russian military bases abroad

Soviet Forces in Europe



Soviet Forces in Africa and Cuba



Soviet Forces in Africa and Asia

[gillan1220]

Sept 24, 2021 8:30:13 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 24, 2021 5:03:09 GMT gillan1220 said:

Probable targets in the CONUS during the 1950s.

〈insert pop-up content here〉

Nice fund, now we need the Soviet Union one.

Found one: Mapping the US nuclear war plan for 1956

[lordroel]

Sept 25, 2021 8:45:12 GMT gillan1220 said:

Sept 24, 2021 8:30:13 GMT lordroel said:

Nice fund, now we need the Soviet Union one.

Found one: Mapping the US nuclear war plan for 1956

Coverage of USSR by B-29s and B-36s



And believe it ore not, this map of the Eastern Soviet Union Missile Bases below is a Andy Warhol work so if it is based on actual location ore just out of his mind, i do not know.

[stevep]

Sept 25, 2021 8:45:12 GMT gillan1220 said:

Sept 24, 2021 8:30:13 GMT lordroel said:

Nice fund, now we need the Soviet Union one.

Found one: Mapping the US nuclear war plan for 1956

  That's a hell of a lot of yellow across eastern Europe and European Russia.  China gets an hammering as well but relatively low in comparison.

  Clicking on gillan1220, link you can get a larger scale of the map here and it also has the option to click on bursts and see the predicted effects.

[lordroel]

Sept 25, 2021 10:52:58 GMT stevep said:

Sept 25, 2021 8:45:12 GMT gillan1220 said:

Found one: Mapping the US nuclear war plan for 1956

  That's a hell of a lot of yellow across eastern Europe and European Russia.  China gets an hammering as well but relatively low in comparison.

  Clicking on gillan1220, link you can get a larger scale of the map here and it also has the option to click on bursts and see the predicted effects.

Best place to life in the Soviet Union seems to be the middle of it.

[gillan1220]

Sept 25, 2021 11:05:57 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 25, 2021 10:52:58 GMT stevep said:

  That's a hell of a lot of yellow across eastern Europe and European Russia.  China gets an hammering as well but relatively low in comparison.

  Clicking on gillan1220 , link you can get a larger scale of the map here and it also has the option to click on bursts and see the predicted effects.

Best place to life in the Soviet Union seems to be the middle of it.

But that place is barren and difficult to live if one is inexperienced.

[lordroel]

Sept 25, 2021 11:12:14 GMT gillan1220 said:

Sept 25, 2021 11:05:57 GMT lordroel said:

Best place to life in the Soviet Union seems to be the middle of it.

But that place is barren and difficult to live if one is inexperienced.

Thus the best place to survive in the Soviet Union, no target as far as we know that is worth to hit.

[gillan1220]

Sept 25, 2021 11:16:26 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 25, 2021 11:12:14 GMT gillan1220 said:

But that place is barren and difficult to live if one is inexperienced.

Thus the best place to survive in the Soviet Union, no target as far as we know that is worth to hit.

The next problem is how to find ways to survive in the Siberian taiga.

[belushitd]

The coverage of the USSR by B-29 and B-36 is highly misleading, at least with respect to coverage from Nome. Nome, even to this day, does not have the hardstands or parking areas that a squadron of B-29s or B-36s would need to land, refuel and take off again, without a serious traffic jam.

I suspect that less than a dozen planes could have been staged out of Nome, severely limiting the capabilities of a strike from there.

Belushi TD

[gillan1220]

American nuclear weapons in the Philippines during the Cold War.

US stored nukes in Philippines under Marcos–Bayan and Philippine Bases and U.S. Nuclear Weapons Policy

[simon darkshade]

For a scholarly paper, the latter has a number of glaring errors even in the introduction, such as the use of Philippine based weapons in the Middle East, the P-3 being described as a fighter plane and a Bellknap class DLG becoming a nuclear powered cruiser. Even for 1983, it is beneath the par of what one would expect for an undergraduate paper, let alone a putative think tank book.

As for the very suggestion that the US stored special weapons overseas during the 1960s, I am shocked - shocked - at the very idea.

[gillan1220]

Sept 28, 2021 8:50:56 GMT simon darkshade said:

For a scholarly paper, the latter has a number of glaring errors even in the introduction, such as the use of Philippine based weapons in the Middle East, the P-3 being described as a fighter plane and a Bellknap class DLG becoming a nuclear powered cruiser. Even for 1983, it is beneath the par of what one would expect for an undergraduate paper, let alone a putative think tank book.

As for the very suggestion that the US stored special weapons overseas during the 1960s, I am shocked - shocked - at the very idea.

It's apparently no surprise the use stored nuclear devices in the Philippines and Japan. These were kept under utmost secrecy. Hence why it took until the 21st century to be declassified because it would have opened a can-of-worms at that period.

Hence, why New Zealand refuses the U.S. Navy's nuclear-powered supercarriers and SSBNs because the U.S. will always find a way to get passed such legalities.