Remembering Pearl Harbor 77 years later

[lordroel]

So on December 7th 1941 the Empire of Japan attacked the United States Pacific Fleet based in Pearl Harbor Hawaii.

Remembering Pearl Harbor 77 years later

[Zyobot]

This thread didn't come to my attention until today, so I'm (unfortunately) a day late. On the bright side, it's not too late for me to mention that today's the 77th anniversary of when the US declared war on Japan.

But going back to the original topic, it's too bad that no USS Arizona survivors were able to attend the remembrance ceremony at all. Those of them that are still with us must be pretty disappointed, to say the least.

As I'm sure is true for a great many people, it's so hard for me to take in how completely different the 21st Century world is relative to its WW2-era counterpart. We went from restrained conservatism to permissive society, big honkin' computers to billions of smart devices, and continent-crushing conflicts to a comparative era of peace and international cooperation in a "mere" seven-point-something decades, though we can't necessarily count on that upswing in prosperity to continue.

Truly, though, it makes me wonder about how life will be in another seventy or so years--when my generation is the one that'll have grown up in the midst of the last living Greatest Generation members, just as they came of age in the twilight years of elderly Civil War veterans who were still alive when they were young; I guess we're not quite as separated from the past as we might first believe, now that I think about it.

But that's my spiel on remembering Pearl Harbor and what it entailed. May the victims of that attack rest in peace and know that--wherever they may be--they haven't been forgotten by future generations.

Thank you for reading,
Zyobot

[lordroel]

Dec 8, 2018 20:46:45 GMT Zyobot said:

This thread didn't come to my attention until today, so I'm (unfortunately) a day late. On the bright side, it's not too late for me to mention that today's the 77th anniversary of when the US declared war on Japan.

But going back to the original topic, it's too bad that no USS Arizona survivors were able to attend the remembrance ceremony at all. Those of them that are still with us must be pretty disappointed, to say the least.

As I'm sure is true for a great many people, it's so hard for me to take in how completely different the 21st Century world is relative to its WW2-era counterpart. We went from restrained conservatism to permissive society, big honkin' computers to billions of smart devices, and continent-crushing conflicts to a comparative era of peace and international cooperation in a "mere" seven-point-something decades, though we can't necessarily count on that upswing in prosperity to continue.

Truly, though, it makes me wonder about how life will be in another seventy or so years--when my generation is the one that'll have grown up in the midst of the last living Greatest Generation members, just as they came of age in the twilight years of elderly Civil War veterans who were still alive when they were young; I guess we're not quite as separated from the past as we might first believe, now that I think about it.

But that's my spiel on remembering Pearl Harbor and what it entailed. May the victims of that attack rest in peace and know that--wherever they may be--they haven't been forgotten by future generations.

Thank you for reading,
Zyobot

No problem, thanks for the reply, of course we cannot forget one of the most famous address ever, the 'A Date Which Will Live in Infamy' by President Roosevelt.

[Zyobot]

Dec 8, 2018 20:54:56 GMT lordroel said:

Dec 8, 2018 20:46:45 GMT Zyobot said:

This thread didn't come to my attention until today, so I'm (unfortunately) a day late. On the bright side, it's not too late for me to mention that today's the 77th anniversary of when the US declared war on Japan.

But going back to the original topic, it's too bad that no USS Arizona survivors were able to attend the remembrance ceremony at all. Those of them that are still with us must be pretty disappointed, to say the least.

As I'm sure is true for a great many people, it's so hard for me to take in how completely different the 21st Century world is relative to its WW2-era counterpart. We went from restrained conservatism to permissive society, big honkin' computers to billions of smart devices, and continent-crushing conflicts to a comparative era of peace and international cooperation in a "mere" seven-point-something decades, though we can't necessarily count on that upswing in prosperity to continue.

Truly, though, it makes me wonder about how life will be in another seventy or so years--when my generation is the one that'll have grown up in the midst of the last living Greatest Generation members, just as they came of age in the twilight years of elderly Civil War veterans who were still alive when they were young; I guess we're not quite as separated from the past as we might first believe, now that I think about it.

But that's my spiel on remembering Pearl Harbor and what it entailed. May the victims of that attack rest in peace and know that--wherever they may be--they haven't been forgotten by future generations.

Thank you for reading,
Zyobot

No problem, thanks for the reply, of course we cannot forget one of the most famous address ever, the 'A Date Which Will Live in Infamy' by President Roosevelt.

Indeed. In fact, it remains an iconic and thus practically unforgettable presidential speech to this day.

At this point, pretty much nothing can stop it from going down as one of the greatest declarations in American history--and certain amongst the most important of the 20th Century.

[lordroel]

Dec 8, 2018 21:04:33 GMT Zyobot said:

Dec 8, 2018 20:54:56 GMT lordroel said:

No problem, thanks for the reply, of course we cannot forget one of the most famous address ever, the 'A Date Which Will Live in Infamy' by President Roosevelt.

Indeed. In fact, it remains an iconic and thus practically unforgettable presidential speech to this day.

At this point, pretty much nothing can stop it from going down as one of the greatest declarations in American history--and certain amongst the most important of the 20th Century.

Here are some December 8th 1941 newspapers, of course there are many more:

St. Louis Post-Dispatch,, December 8th, 1941



Los Angeles Times, December 8th, 1941



Seattle Star, December 8th, 1941



New York Times, December 8th, 1941

[Zyobot]

I just found something of interest. According to Popular Mechanics, the (US) military's still unsure exactly how many people died at Pearl Harbor. Since November of this year, they identified 6 men who died on the USS Oklahoma; they hope to have about 80 percent of them narrowed down by 2020 or so.

[lordroel]

Dec 9, 2018 3:14:10 GMT Zyobot said:

I just found something of interest. According to Popular Mechanics, the (US) military's still unsure exactly how many people died at Pearl Harbor. Since November of this year, they identified 6 men who died on the USS Oklahoma; they hope to have about 80 percent of them narrowed down by 2020 or so.

That i never knew, thanks for the article Zyobot

[stevep]

Dec 9, 2018 3:14:10 GMT Zyobot said:

I just found something of interest. According to Popular Mechanics, the (US) military's still unsure exactly how many people died at Pearl Harbor. Since November of this year, they identified 6 men who died on the USS Oklahoma; they hope to have about 80 percent of them narrowed down by 2020 or so.

  Interesting, and amazing how much chaos the attack caused.  Possibly a factor as well it being a Sunday its unclear how many people may off been away from their normal post/position and hence the still substantial number of MIAs.  Also with some bodies so utterly destroy or lost in the water I think a number of deaths will never be confirmed.

[lordroel]

Dec 9, 2018 11:27:28 GMT stevep said:

Dec 9, 2018 3:14:10 GMT Zyobot said:

I just found something of interest. According to Popular Mechanics, the (US) military's still unsure exactly how many people died at Pearl Harbor. Since November of this year, they identified 6 men who died on the USS Oklahoma; they hope to have about 80 percent of them narrowed down by 2020 or so.

  Interesting, and amazing how much chaos the attack caused.  Possibly a factor as well it being a Sunday its unclear how many people may off been away from their normal post/position and hence the still substantial number of MIAs.  Also with some bodies so utterly destroy or lost in the water I think a number of deaths will never be confirmed.

New York Times, December 9th, 1941