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Post by lordroel on Jan 4, 2021 19:48:31 GMT
Major ground combat units of the Democratic American Republic’s Army & Marine Corps – March 1st, 2029DAR - called by Washington the 'New Confederacy' - has nine former USA states. (In order of succession) Oregon, California, Hawaii, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho & Utah. Last two forced against the will of the majority of their people into teh DAR.California Corps5th Marine Division (26th Marine Regiment + 27th Marine Regiment + 28th Marine Regiment) 7th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade) 23d Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade) Colorado Corps4th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 81st Armored Brigade) 25th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade) 157th Infantry Brigade Hawaii Corps3d Marine Division (3d Marine Regiment + 4th Marine Regiment) Idaho Corps2d Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade) 41st Infantry Division (41st Infantry Brigade + 116th Cavalry Brigade) New Mexico Corps1st Marine Division (1st Marine Regiment + 5th Marine Regiment + 7th Marine Regiment) 40th Infantry Division (29th Infantry Brigade + 79th Infantry Brigade + 80th Armored Brigade) 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment 258th Infantry Brigade Utah Corps23d Marine Regiment 189th Infantry Brigade 2d Infantry Division A United States Army Pacific unit, the 2d Infantry Division returned from South Korea in 2028 following the conclusion of the Taiwan Conflict: unofficially known as the Sino-American War. Peace in East Asia meant that American forces left the Korean Peninsula and the 2d Infantry Division moved to the Pacific North–West. Garrison HQ was at Joint Base Lewis–McChord with when Washington state joined with several other states in declaring succession from the United States of America through December ’28 / January ’29 following the disputed presidential election that November. Like almost all other elements of the United States Armed Forces, the 2d Infantry Division was hit by waves of desertion, deliberate destruction of equipment and divided loyalties during the formation of the Democratic American Republic (DAR). Called upon to defend the new nation, the 2d Infantry Division is only able to field two combat brigades during the first fighting in March ’29. Serving under the Idaho Corps, the 2d Infantry Division is deployed within that Pacific North–West state fighting against US Army units but also extensive – and varied – armed militia who are opposed to Idaho’s succession and subsequent joining of the DAR.
4th Infantry Division Losing its commanding general and a significant portion of its officer staff & manpower to desertion, the 4th Infantry Division joined with the DAR army late in the succession crisis which tore apart the western portions of the United States. Garrisoned at Fort Carson in Colorado, with new command staff appointed as well as a late influx of retired/recalled soldiers living within Colorado as well as the states of the DAR, the 4th Infantry Division has from the start of open conflict been on the frontlines of the war. Only able to field two of its own brigades, the 4th Infantry Division has been reinforced by the 81st Armored Brigade of national guardsmen from Washington state. It serves under the Colorado Corps. After retreating away from the city of Denver in light of an opening United States Army major attack, the 4th Infantry Division is currently defending the passes through the Rockies with its attached national guardsmen in Wyoming too on the flank.
7th Infantry Division The 7th Infantry Division was raised by the DAR Army in January ’29. It is forming within California using retirees and volunteers from across that state plus the Pacific North–West DAR states of Oregon and Washington. Three combat manoeuvre brigades are planned to be fielded once the 7th Infantry Division is fully manned but equipping them is proving more difficult than imagined. Currently attached to the California Corps in the rear and several months away from reaching operational readiness.
23d Infantry Division The 23d Infantry Division was raised by the DAR Army in January ’29. It is forming within California using retirees and volunteers from across that state in addition to the DAR states of Arizona, Hawaii & Nevada plus the Pacific territories inherited by the DAR upon succession from the United States. Three combat manoeuvre brigades are planned to be fielded once the 23d Infantry Division is fully manned but equipping them is proving more difficult than imagined. Currently attached to the California Corps in the rear and several months away from reaching operational readiness.
25th Infantry Division A United States Army Pacific unit, the Hawaii-based elements of the 25th Infantry Division suffered few losses to desertion when the DAR Army was formed. With a garrison HQ at Fort Shafter in Hawaii, half of the division was in Alaska though. United States Army Alaska units remained loyal to the federal government as their state has done. Orders came for the rump 25th Infantry Division to urgently redeploy to the mainland to aid in the succession of the state of New Mexico in the face of federal United States efforts to prevent that. The first major combat formation to see action, the 25th Infantry Division engaged militia units from Texas – and elsewhere – entering New Mexico though didn’t fight with United States Army elements gathered on the New Mexico / Texas border until late February once the war began. Fielding only two combat brigades, the 25th Infantry Division is currently with the Colorado Corps after shifting northwards last month to try and stop the United States Army offensive to retake Colorado. Losses have been heavy and the 25th Infantry Division is in retreat.
40th Infantry Division A National Guard formation, the 40th Infantry Division consisted of many subunits of volunteer soldiers from across the western states of the United States. It was called out by the California state government in Sacramento – where the DAR capital now is – during the political violence which took place in the lead-up to and during the 2028 election. Protecting the voting rights of those whom the Supreme Court denied, the 40th Infantry Division was spread throughout California, Oregon and Hawaii less the federal government intervene. The 40th Infantry Division came under DAR control when California was the first state to succeed in December ’28. Deployment orders came for the national guardsmen to first deploy into Arizona and New Mexico during the succession of those states before the ‘El Paso Incident’ on New Year’s Eve saw part of the 40th Infantry Division move into the far western portion of Texas: this event saw the capture of the near empty Fort Bliss (1st Armored Division was in the Baltics as part of a major US Army deployment) and a lot of military equipment there, which would later be put to use by the 40th Infantry Division. Fielding a trio of combat brigades – the 29th Infantry from Hawaii, the 79th Infantry from California and the 80th Infantry (Arizona and California, using former Fort Bliss equipment) –, the 40th Infantry Division is assigned to the New Mexico Corps. El Paso along with much of New Mexico is back in United States hands but the 40th Infantry Division fights on.
41st Infantry Division Newly-raised in late December ’29 on the initiative of the Governor of Oregon following succession, the 41st Infantry Division took under command that state’s 41st Infantry Brigade plus national guardsmen from Washington with their 81st Armored Brigade. The 41st Infantry Division moved into Idaho following the declaration from Boise nullifying the state’s vote for the Texas-based presidential candidate and instead supporting the California-based candidate. When Idaho succeeded, this brought about major civil unrest in the state though a good portion of the 116th Cavalry Brigade – national guardsmen from Idaho – joined with the DAR’s army: that brigade came under 41st Infantry Division control when the 81st Armored Brigade left for Colorado. With two combat brigades, the 41st Infantry Division is currently with the Idaho Corps in that state. They are fighting the US Army at the front and militia units in the rear.
11th Armored Cavalry Regiment A United States Army training unit based at Fort Irwin in California, the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment lost men and equipment during the succession of western states and the formation of the DAR. Brigade-sized despite the name, the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment was one of the most capable elements of the new DAR Army and from the first fighting in February – in light of what happened in Idaho and Utah – they have shown their worth. The 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment is currently fighting with the New Mexico Corps alongside the 40th Infantry Division and the DAR’s Marine Corps.
157th Infantry Brigade Raised first in Colorado, the 157th Infantry Brigade consisted of national guardsmen and volunteers from that state with an intention for them to fulfil security tasks in the DAR state. Once war with the United States broke out, the under-strength unit was joined by others from Nevada. Equipment was light and training not the best: the 157th Infantry Brigade should never have ended up on the frontlines where it found itself. Assigned to the Colorado Corps, the 157th Infantry Brigade has been depleted in the fighting and is close to being classified as combat-ineffective. Battles near Colorado Springs and Pueblo against some of the best units in the US Army have near destroyed this unit.
189th Infantry Brigade A United States Army training unit based at Joint Base Lewis–McChord in Washington state, the 189th Infantry Brigade is now composed of former US Army Reserve soldiers from across the western states of the DAR. The intention of the military command in Sacramento was to send the unit eastwards to defend the frontiers of the new country. Events in Utah where the massacre in Salt Lake City of innocents by militia claiming allegiance to the United States saw Sacramento decide to invade state and protect its people. Utah, a remaining part of the United States, fought back against the DAR. The 189th Infantry Brigade is engaging with militia and US Army Special Forces across the northern and eastern portions of Utah.
258th Infantry Brigade Raised first in Arizona, the 258th Infantry Brigade consisted of national guardsmen and volunteers from that state with an intention for them to fulfil security tasks in the DAR state. Once war with the United States broke out, the unit was sent into New Mexico. Assigned to the New Mexico Corps, the 258th Infantry Brigade is currently trapped in the Albuquerque Pocket. They are surrounded and cut off from external support. Hope of relief is fading and supplies are dwindling.
1st Marine Division Based in California, the large 1st Marine Division was Pacific-rolled when in United States service. Losses to desertion and equipment destruction shook the US Marines when the succession crisis erupted as morale was fought to be high among US Marines. The federal government attempted to redeploy the 1st Marine Division to Alaska to stop it falling under the control of the ‘rebels in Sacramento’. This led to a shooting incident among fellow US Marines at the HQ in Camp Pendleton and a munity at Twenty-Nine Palms (both in California) which nearly destroyed the 1st Marine Division. Currently fielding three marine regiments – brigades in all but name –, the 1st Marine Division is serving with the New Mexico Corps. They are back on the western side of the Rio Grande after a retreat from the Texan Panhandle starting in February when hit by heavy US Army forces on the attack.
3rd Marine Division Based in Hawaii, the 3rd Marine Division was likewise ordered to move to Alaska when the succession crisis began. Hawaii – the third state to succeed – retained command of the 3rd Marine Division though. Still under-strength following losses incurred in the Taiwan conflict, the division wasn’t recalled to the mainland upon the outbreak of fighting. Fielding two marine regiments – each with only the bare minimum strength –, the 3rd Marine Division remains in Hawaii. It is a counterattack force positioned to defend Hawaii from United States attack via Alaska and also Chinese adventurism too… a big ask.
5th Marine Division Newly-raised, the 5th Marine Division is still forming up. It is spread across the south of California. Former Marines as well as volunteers from the DAR – as well as some who have come west across the divided America – are undergoing training. Three regiments are eventually planned to be fielded by the 5th Marine Division yet this is taking time. Equipment is the main issue because this new DAR Marine Corps division is projected to be heavily equipped with main battle tanks, armoured vehicles and helicopters like the other two.
23d Marine Regiment A Marine Corps Reserve unit, the 23d Marine Regiment was headquartered in California yet with only one-thirds strength there: the rest of the unit was elsewhere in the dividing country. Joined by national guardsmen from Nevada, the 23d Marine Regiment was initially a mobile reserve unit based in Nevada. Send into Utah during February ’29, the actions of the 23d Marine Regiment helped light the fire which is the American Civil War. It is engaged in action against militia and US Army Special Forces throughout the south of Utah. Is the formation of the DAR a result of a 2nd American Civil War.
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Post by James G on Jan 4, 2021 19:53:15 GMT
Major ground combat units of the Democratic American Republic’s Army & Marine Corps – March 1st, 2029DAR - called by Washington the 'New Confederacy' - has nine former USA states. (In order of succession) Oregon, California, Hawaii, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho & Utah. Last two forced against the will of the majority of their people into teh DAR.California Corps5th Marine Division (26th Marine Regiment + 27th Marine Regiment + 28th Marine Regiment) 7th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade) 23d Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade) Colorado Corps4th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 81st Armored Brigade) 25th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade) 157th Infantry Brigade Hawaii Corps3d Marine Division (3d Marine Regiment + 4th Marine Regiment) Idaho Corps2d Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade) 41st Infantry Division (41st Infantry Brigade + 116th Cavalry Brigade) New Mexico Corps1st Marine Division (1st Marine Regiment + 5th Marine Regiment + 7th Marine Regiment) 40th Infantry Division (29th Infantry Brigade + 79th Infantry Brigade + 80th Armored Brigade) 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment 258th Infantry Brigade Utah Corps23d Marine Regiment 189th Infantry Brigade 2d Infantry Division A United States Army Pacific unit, the 2d Infantry Division returned from South Korea in 2028 following the conclusion of the Taiwan Conflict: unofficially known as the Sino-American War. Peace in East Asia meant that American forces left the Korean Peninsula and the 2d Infantry Division moved to the Pacific North–West. Garrison HQ was at Joint Base Lewis–McChord with when Washington state joined with several other states in declaring succession from the United States of America through December ’28 / January ’29 following the disputed presidential election that November. Like almost all other elements of the United States Armed Forces, the 2d Infantry Division was hit by waves of desertion, deliberate destruction of equipment and divided loyalties during the formation of the Democratic American Republic (DAR). Called upon to defend the new nation, the 2d Infantry Division is only able to field two combat brigades during the first fighting in March ’29. Serving under the Idaho Corps, the 2d Infantry Division is deployed within that Pacific North–West state fighting against US Army units but also extensive – and varied – armed militia who are opposed to Idaho’s succession and subsequent joining of the DAR.
4th Infantry Division Losing its commanding general and a significant portion of its officer staff & manpower to desertion, the 4th Infantry Division joined with the DAR army late in the succession crisis which tore apart the western portions of the United States. Garrisoned at Fort Carson in Colorado, with new command staff appointed as well as a late influx of retired/recalled soldiers living within Colorado as well as the states of the DAR, the 4th Infantry Division has from the start of open conflict been on the frontlines of the war. Only able to field two of its own brigades, the 4th Infantry Division has been reinforced by the 81st Armored Brigade of national guardsmen from Washington state. It serves under the Colorado Corps. After retreating away from the city of Denver in light of an opening United States Army major attack, the 4th Infantry Division is currently defending the passes through the Rockies with its attached national guardsmen in Wyoming too on the flank.
7th Infantry Division The 7th Infantry Division was raised by the DAR Army in January ’29. It is forming within California using retirees and volunteers from across that state plus the Pacific North–West DAR states of Oregon and Washington. Three combat manoeuvre brigades are planned to be fielded once the 7th Infantry Division is fully manned but equipping them is proving more difficult than imagined. Currently attached to the California Corps in the rear and several months away from reaching operational readiness.
23d Infantry Division The 23d Infantry Division was raised by the DAR Army in January ’29. It is forming within California using retirees and volunteers from across that state in addition to the DAR states of Arizona, Hawaii & Nevada plus the Pacific territories inherited by the DAR upon succession from the United States. Three combat manoeuvre brigades are planned to be fielded once the 23d Infantry Division is fully manned but equipping them is proving more difficult than imagined. Currently attached to the California Corps in the rear and several months away from reaching operational readiness.
25th Infantry Division A United States Army Pacific unit, the Hawaii-based elements of the 25th Infantry Division suffered few losses to desertion when the DAR Army was formed. With a garrison HQ at Fort Shafter in Hawaii, half of the division was in Alaska though. United States Army Alaska units remained loyal to the federal government as their state has done. Orders came for the rump 25th Infantry Division to urgently redeploy to the mainland to aid in the succession of the state of New Mexico in the face of federal United States efforts to prevent that. The first major combat formation to see action, the 25th Infantry Division engaged militia units from Texas – and elsewhere – entering New Mexico though didn’t fight with United States Army elements gathered on the New Mexico / Texas border until late February once the war began. Fielding only two combat brigades, the 25th Infantry Division is currently with the Colorado Corps after shifting northwards last month to try and stop the United States Army offensive to retake Colorado. Losses have been heavy and the 25th Infantry Division is in retreat.
40th Infantry Division A National Guard formation, the 40th Infantry Division consisted of many subunits of volunteer soldiers from across the western states of the United States. It was called out by the California state government in Sacramento – where the DAR capital now is – during the political violence which took place in the lead-up to and during the 2028 election. Protecting the voting rights of those whom the Supreme Court denied, the 40th Infantry Division was spread throughout California, Oregon and Hawaii less the federal government intervene. The 40th Infantry Division came under DAR control when California was the first state to succeed in December ’28. Deployment orders came for the national guardsmen to first deploy into Arizona and New Mexico during the succession of those states before the ‘El Paso Incident’ on New Year’s Eve saw part of the 40th Infantry Division move into the far western portion of Texas: this event saw the capture of the near empty Fort Bliss (1st Armored Division was in the Baltics as part of a major US Army deployment) and a lot of military equipment there, which would later be put to use by the 40th Infantry Division. Fielding a trio of combat brigades – the 29th Infantry from Hawaii, the 79th Infantry from California and the 80th Infantry (Arizona and California, using former Fort Bliss equipment) –, the 40th Infantry Division is assigned to the New Mexico Corps. El Paso along with much of New Mexico is back in United States hands but the 40th Infantry Division fights on.
41st Infantry Division Newly-raised in late December ’29 on the initiative of the Governor of Oregon following succession, the 41st Infantry Division took under command that state’s 41st Infantry Brigade plus national guardsmen from Washington with their 81st Armored Brigade. The 41st Infantry Division moved into Idaho following the declaration from Boise nullifying the state’s vote for the Texas-based presidential candidate and instead supporting the California-based candidate. When Idaho succeeded, this brought about major civil unrest in the state though a good portion of the 116th Cavalry Brigade – national guardsmen from Idaho – joined with the DAR’s army: that brigade came under 41st Infantry Division control when the 81st Armored Brigade left for Colorado. With two combat brigades, the 41st Infantry Division is currently with the Idaho Corps in that state. They are fighting the US Army at the front and militia units in the rear.
11th Armored Cavalry Regiment A United States Army training unit based at Fort Irwin in California, the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment lost men and equipment during the succession of western states and the formation of the DAR. Brigade-sized despite the name, the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment was one of the most capable elements of the new DAR Army and from the first fighting in February – in light of what happened in Idaho and Utah – they have shown their worth. The 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment is currently fighting with the New Mexico Corps alongside the 40th Infantry Division and the DAR’s Marine Corps.
157th Infantry Brigade Raised first in Colorado, the 157th Infantry Brigade consisted of national guardsmen and volunteers from that state with an intention for them to fulfil security tasks in the DAR state. Once war with the United States broke out, the under-strength unit was joined by others from Nevada. Equipment was light and training not the best: the 157th Infantry Brigade should never have ended up on the frontlines where it found itself. Assigned to the Colorado Corps, the 157th Infantry Brigade has been depleted in the fighting and is close to being classified as combat-ineffective. Battles near Colorado Springs and Pueblo against some of the best units in the US Army have near destroyed this unit.
189th Infantry Brigade A United States Army training unit based at Joint Base Lewis–McChord in Washington state, the 189th Infantry Brigade is now composed of former US Army Reserve soldiers from across the western states of the DAR. The intention of the military command in Sacramento was to send the unit eastwards to defend the frontiers of the new country. Events in Utah where the massacre in Salt Lake City of innocents by militia claiming allegiance to the United States saw Sacramento decide to invade state and protect its people. Utah, a remaining part of the United States, fought back against the DAR. The 189th Infantry Brigade is engaging with militia and US Army Special Forces across the northern and eastern portions of Utah.
258th Infantry Brigade Raised first in Arizona, the 258th Infantry Brigade consisted of national guardsmen and volunteers from that state with an intention for them to fulfil security tasks in the DAR state. Once war with the United States broke out, the unit was sent into New Mexico. Assigned to the New Mexico Corps, the 258th Infantry Brigade is currently trapped in the Albuquerque Pocket. They are surrounded and cut off from external support. Hope of relief is fading and supplies are dwindling.
1st Marine Division Based in California, the large 1st Marine Division was Pacific-rolled when in United States service. Losses to desertion and equipment destruction shook the US Marines when the succession crisis erupted as morale was fought to be high among US Marines. The federal government attempted to redeploy the 1st Marine Division to Alaska to stop it falling under the control of the ‘rebels in Sacramento’. This led to a shooting incident among fellow US Marines at the HQ in Camp Pendleton and a munity at Twenty-Nine Palms (both in California) which nearly destroyed the 1st Marine Division. Currently fielding three marine regiments – brigades in all but name –, the 1st Marine Division is serving with the New Mexico Corps. They are back on the western side of the Rio Grande after a retreat from the Texan Panhandle starting in February when hit by heavy US Army forces on the attack.
3rd Marine Division Based in Hawaii, the 3rd Marine Division was likewise ordered to move to Alaska when the succession crisis began. Hawaii – the third state to succeed – retained command of the 3rd Marine Division though. Still under-strength following losses incurred in the Taiwan conflict, the division wasn’t recalled to the mainland upon the outbreak of fighting. Fielding two marine regiments – each with only the bare minimum strength –, the 3rd Marine Division remains in Hawaii. It is a counterattack force positioned to defend Hawaii from United States attack via Alaska and also Chinese adventurism too… a big ask.
5th Marine Division Newly-raised, the 5th Marine Division is still forming up. It is spread across the south of California. Former Marines as well as volunteers from the DAR – as well as some who have come west across the divided America – are undergoing training. Three regiments are eventually planned to be fielded by the 5th Marine Division yet this is taking time. Equipment is the main issue because this new DAR Marine Corps division is projected to be heavily equipped with main battle tanks, armoured vehicles and helicopters like the other two.
23d Marine Regiment A Marine Corps Reserve unit, the 23d Marine Regiment was headquartered in California yet with only one-thirds strength there: the rest of the unit was elsewhere in the dividing country. Joined by national guardsmen from Nevada, the 23d Marine Regiment was initially a mobile reserve unit based in Nevada. Send into Utah during February ’29, the actions of the 23d Marine Regiment helped light the fire which is the American Civil War. It is engaged in action against militia and US Army Special Forces throughout the south of Utah. Is the formation of the DAR a result of a 2nd American Civil War. Nope. It ignites a civil war. States succeed, a lame duck president sits on its hand and the succession states unite to form the DAR. They then begin expanding as a new US president takes office and he goes to war with the DAR to crush them once and for all.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 4, 2021 19:55:12 GMT
Is the formation of the DAR a result of a 2nd American Civil War. Nope. It ignites a civil war. States succeed, a lame duck president sits on its hand and the succession states unite to form the DAR. They then begin expanding as a new US president takes office and he goes to war with the DAR to crush them once and for all. Surprise you did not call the DAR the United Pacific Republic ore something as most states who are based at the Pacific and succeed end up with Pacific in their name.
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Post by James G on Jan 4, 2021 19:56:47 GMT
Nope. It ignites a civil war. States succeed, a lame duck president sits on its hand and the succession states unite to form the DAR. They then begin expanding as a new US president takes office and he goes to war with the DAR to crush them once and for all. Surprise you did not call the DAR the United Pacific Republic ore something as most states who are based at the Pacific and succeed end up with Pacific in their name. Not a name I like. The Democratic American Republic has a ring to it which I like.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 4, 2021 19:59:05 GMT
Surprise you did not call the DAR the United Pacific Republic ore something as most states who are based at the Pacific and succeed end up with Pacific in their name. Not a name I like. The Democratic American Republic has a ring to it which I like. So what happened to the National Guard units of those states.
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Post by James G on Jan 4, 2021 20:00:30 GMT
Not a name I like. The Democratic American Republic has a ring to it which I like. So what happened to the National Guard units of those states. Its all there at the bottom with unit histories/statues. Most stuck with their states but there has been huge desertion too.
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Post by stevep on Jan 5, 2021 9:35:40 GMT
Interesting. Given the circumstances is there a similar break away on the east coast? If not I can't see the secession lasting long as the Pacific states lack the resources, at least unless their prepared to use nukes to defend their independence. I am a bit surprised they seem to have forced a couple of border states into the DAR, but reading a bit further I see why, although the Idaho intervention could be seen as controversial depending on the actual balance of support there.
Would be useful to know more of the context but sounds like there's serious crisis on the election with a lot of voter suppression prompting the rebellion, although whether that's by the existing government in Washington or extreme elements is unclear.
Similarly since a div had returned from Korea after the war with China does this mean that the US lost that conflict and possibly both Taiwan and S Korea have been lost or has the US and allies won so big that they no longer need as many forces in Korea?
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PS Since Alaska isn't among the rebels states I assume their still under Republican control?
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Post by James G on Jan 5, 2021 9:44:35 GMT
Interesting. Given the circumstances is there a similar break away on the east coast? If not I can't see the secession lasting long as the Pacific states lack the resources, at least unless their prepared to use nukes to defend their independence. I am a bit surprised they seem to have forced a couple of border states into the DAR, but reading a bit further I see why, although the Idaho intervention could be seen as controversial depending on the actual balance of support there.
Would be useful to know more of the context but sounds like there's serious crisis on the election with a lot of voter suppression prompting the rebellion, although whether that's by the existing government in Washington or extreme elements is unclear.
Similarly since a div had returned from Korea after the war with China does this mean that the US lost that conflict and possibly both Taiwan and S Korea have been lost or has the US and allies won so big that they no longer need as many forces in Korea?
Steve
PS Since Alaska isn't among the rebels states I assume their still under Republican control?
It's something I've been thinking about for a while. East coast states took the legal approach and lost: California went too far. I have ideas about mass voter disenfranchisement. Also vote counts from whole states were rejected in the Electoral College too. Idaho but also Utah are outrageous land grabs. There was a draw with the confl5with China but many saw it as an American defeat. US forces left Korea and Japan so that would mark as a defeat to be fair. Alaska remains with the United States. I hope to do an opposite side ORBAT tonight then, hopefully, a fiction piece with details of the whole thing.
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Post by James G on Jan 5, 2021 19:26:02 GMT
Major ground combat units of the United States Army & Marine Corps – March 1st, 2029
United States Army Alaska
6th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Airborne Brigade)
42nd Infantry Division (27th Infantry Brigade + 44th Infantry Brigade)
US I Corps
2d Armored Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Armored Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
5th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
9th Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
11th Airborne Division (1st Airborne Brigade + 2d Airborne Brigade)
24th Infantry Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
10th Cavalry Regiment
US II Marine Expeditionary Force
2d Marine Division (2d Marine Regiment + 6th Marine Regiment + 8th Marine Regiment)
4th Marine Division (24th Marine Regiment + 25th Marine Regiment)
53d Infantry Brigade
US III Corps
1st Cavalry Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Armored Brigade + 3d Armored Brigade)
10th Mountain Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
36th Infantry Division (56th Infantry Brigade + 72nd Infantry Brigade + 256th Infantry Brigade)
278th Armored Cavalry Regiment
US V Corps
1st Armored Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Armored Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
3d Infantry Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
2d Cavalry Regiment
3d Cavalry Regiment
US VII Corps
1st Infantry Division (1st Infantry Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 3d Infantry Brigade)
28th Infantry Division (2d Infantry Brigade + 56th Infantry Brigade + 155th Armored Brigade)
29th Infantry Division (30th Armored Brigade + 48th Infantry Brigade + 116th Infantry Brigade)
14th Cavalry Regiment
US XI Corps
34th Infantry Division (1st Armored Brigade + 2d Infantry Brigade + 32d Infantry Brigade)
38th Infantry Division (37th Infantry Brigade + 76th Infantry Brigade + 86th Armored Brigade)
173d Airborne Brigade
US XVIII Airborne Corps
35th Infantry Division (33d Infantry Brigade + 39th Infantry Brigade + 45th Infantry Brigade)
82d Airborne Division (1st Airborne Brigade + 2d Airborne Brigade + 3d Airborne Brigade)
101st Airborne Division (1st Airborne Brigade + 2d Airborne Brigade + 3d Airborne Brigade)
United States Army Alaska Currently based in Alaska – the only Pacific area state remaining within the United States –, this corps-sized command garrisons the largest state in the nation. Its mission is defensive though there are plans to use its 6th Infantry Division in an offensive manner soon: especially that formation’s airborne brigade. The 6th Infantry Division was formed in January 2029 from elements of the 25th Infantry Division which had been home-based in Alaska rather than with the rest of the division in Hawaii. Two full combat manoeuvre brigades are assigned. The 42nd Infantry Division is a unit of national guardsmen. Transferred from the Eastern Seaboard in February ’29, the division was airlifted to Alaska via Canada. Only two of the three combat brigades with the 42nd Infantry Division made the deployment: the 27th Infantry (New York) and 44th Infantry (New Jersey) Brigades.
US I Corps Forming within the rear and composed of retirees and volunteers, the I Corps is currently spread across the central, eastern & southern portions of the United States at various sites. It will be another couple of months before the elements can see service with not all of them planned to serve with the I Corps in the field. The 2d Armored Division is forming up at Fort Knox in Kentucky. It will field three combat brigades. The 5th Infantry Division is forming up at Fort Hood in Texas. It will field three combat brigades. The 9th Infantry Division is forming up at Camp Atterbury in Indiana and Fort McCoy in Wisconsin. It will field three combat brigades. The 11th Airborne Division is forming up at Fort Bragg in North Carolina and Fort Campbell in Kentucky. It will field two combat brigades, with additional elements coming from elsewhere. The 24th Infantry Division is forming up at Fort Benning & Fort Stewart (both) in Georgia. It will field three combat brigades. The 10th Cavalry Regiment is forming up at Fort Dix in New Jersey. It will be brigade-sized.
US II Marine Expeditionary Force Fighting in the southern reaches of New Mexico, the II MEF is composed of US Marines as well as national guardsmen from Florida as well as Alabama. Reserve elements were mobilised in January ’29 when the corps-sized headquarters stood up in North Carolina. Deployment plans were first for the II MEF to go to Colorado to aid the federal government’s efforts to forestall the late succession of that state but inaction by the then president in his last weeks in office saw that stalled. Colorado succeeded while the Marines were still on the East Coast. The II MEF has taken part in the offensive to enter New Mexico from out of the west of Texas and freed El Paso. It is currently sitting on the Rio Grande with Democratic American Republic forces on the other side of the river. The 2d Marine Division includes three marine regiments (effectively small brigades) as well as a large heavy armour component. The 4th Marine Division is smaller with only two regiments assigned – one of them re-established in February – though does have an armoured component too. The 53d Infantry Brigade is a light force with national guardsmen under command.
US III Corps Engaged in combat within New Mexico too, the III Corps is formed of regular US Army soldiers, the Army Reserve and Army National Guard elements. The III Corps was stood up for possible action dealing with insurrection in December 2028 at the instruction of the Pentagon but no deployment orders came. At that point it consisted of just the 1st Cavalry Division as its major combat force with the 1st Armored Division being absent overseas. Fort Bliss, north of El Paso and just over the state line in New Mexico, was seized by DAR forces without a shot being fired by the III Corps due to inaction in Washington. When first Idaho and Utah were – as described by the new Secretary of Defence – ‘Shanghaied’ into the DAR, and thus war came about, the III Corps went on the offensive into New Mexico. Immediate objectives are in Arizona but the III Corps is tasked to advance to the Pacific overall. The 1st Cavalry Division fields three combat brigades. The 10th Mountain Division – an infantry division in all but name – fields three combat brigades. The 36th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 56th Infantry (Texas), the 72nd Infantry (Texas) and the 256th Infantry (Louisiana). The 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment (Tennessee) is brigade-sized.
US V Corps The V Corps was deployed to the Baltics and Poland during the summer months of 2028 to face off against the major Russian threat to Eastern Europe. Forward-deployed elements of the V Corps were joined by significant US-based combat forces from Georgia and Texas: this included many soldiers whose homes were in the states of the DAR when those in succession joined together to form a new nation. Ahead of the first shots of the civil war being fired, elements of the V Corps were recalled home yet the majority stayed where it was: no authorisation came for the redeployment despite the outrageous situation. The new president at once reversed the ‘stay-in-place’ order. The Europeans were in uproar but the soldiers are needed at home. There has been a large number of deserters – not just those from the DAR states – who have sought political asylum within Europe rather than go home and fight. The V Corps is currently engaged in the process of redeployment back to the United States. The 1st Armored Division fields three combat brigades. The 3rd Infantry Division fields three combat brigades. The 2d Cavalry Regiment is brigade-sized. The 3d Cavalry Regiment is brigade-sized.
US VII Corps Activated in late January 2029, the VII Corps is currently fighting in Colorado. It is formed of regular US Army soldiers, the Army Reserve and Army National Guard elements. The VII Corps has advanced westwards from Kansas and Nebraska into Colorado with the intention of clearing the Rockies and liberating Utah before eventually moving onwards as far as possible all the way to the Pacific. Control of Denver has been won and DAR forces encircled near to Colorado Springs too. The fighting is in the mountains now. The 1st Infantry Division fields three combat brigades. The 28th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 2d Infantry (Pennsylvania), the 56th Infantry (Pennsylvania) and the 155th Armored (Mississippi). The 29th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 30th Armored (North Carolina), the 48th Infantry (Georgia) and the 116th Infantry (Virginia). The 14th Cavalry Regiment is the re-designation for the 177th Armored Brigade from Camp Shelby in Mississippi which was a training unit before the new name and mission: it is brigade-sized.
US IX Corps Also activated in late January 2029, the IX Corps is currently engaged in combat across Idaho and the southwestern reaches of Wyoming. It is formed of regular US Army soldiers, the Army Reserve and Army National Guard elements. The IX Corps has entered Idaho to secure that state’s place within the United States against the forcible annexation by the Democratic American Republic. It is fighting to reach Boise as the immediate objective with latter, final ones, being the those on the Pacific. Significant problems with the mobilisation of certain Army National Guard elements within the IX Corps – due to political issues within select states – has seen the ‘stiffening’ of many units with US Army and Army Reserve soldiers to replace absentees: this is especially apparent within those units from Minnesota and Vermont. The 34th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 1st Armored (Minnesota), the 2d Infantry (Iowa) and the 32d Infantry (Wisconsin). The 38th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 37th Infantry (Ohio), the 76th Infantry (Indiana) and the 86th Armored (Vermont). The 173d Airborne Brigade was in Tallinn when the civil war began. Recalled home early last month – replaced in the Estonia capital by British Paras – the brigade is now in central Idaho.
US XVIII Airborne Corps Engaged in combat within Colorado as well as the northern reaches of New Mexico, the XVIII Corps is formed of regular US Army soldiers, the Army Reserve and Army National Guard elements. The XVIII Corps was stood up for possible action dealing with insurrection in December 2028 at the instruction of the Pentagon but no deployment orders came. A portion of the command was in Europe yet the majority was home-based. Succession of the western states and then political shenanigans in Boise plus violent events in Salt Lake City saw the XVIII corps ready for conflict once the new president was in office. Positioned between the VII Corps on the right and the III Corps to the right, the XVIII Corps is on the offensive to clear access through the Rockies. One division, the 82d Airborne, is being held back ready for an airdrop in the rear once the time is deemed right. The 35th Infantry Division fields three brigades of national guardsmen: the 33d Infantry (Illinois), the 39th Infantry (Arkansas) and the 45th Infantry (Oklahoma). The 82d Airborne Division fields three combat brigades. The 101st Airborne Division fields three combat brigades.
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Post by forcon on Jan 26, 2021 12:31:55 GMT
Russia sees a wave of domestic unrest that spreads rapidly across the country. Putin's new Russian National Guard brutally represses the unrest, which leads to a further bout of rioting and demonstrating. Plagued by abject terror at the prospect of a Colour Revolution, supported by the CIA, Putin asks his military advisors for options. They present him with Operation Shtyk, a plan to rapidly occupy the Baltic States in order to allow for negotiations with NATO from a position of strategic strength while uniting the nation against an outside enemy. Russia mobilises; NATO follows suite, but political issues and the reluctance of Turkey, Greece, and Hungary to participate in NATO operations slows the process down greatly. After several days of tension, the Western Military District is ready to commence Operation Shtyk. www.gfsis.org/maps/russian-military-forcesOperation Shtyk - Russian Forces attacking the Baltic States on D-DayWestern Military District: • Russian Ground Forces 15th Army Aviation Brigade – Deployed at Pskov and Belarusian airfields to provide tactical helicopter support. • Russian Ground Forces 16th Independent Electronic Warfare Brigade – Provides theatre-level signals jamming support. • Russian Ground Forces 45th High-Power Artillery Brigade – Provides strategic fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 79th Guards Rocket Artillery Brigade – Provides strategic fires support. Russian Forces Attacking Estonia:• Russian Main Intelligence Directorate 2nd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade – attacking targets behind NATO lines. • Russian Airborne Troops 76th Guards Air Assault Division – Attacking on the Narva-Rakvere-Tallinn axis. 6TH COMBINED ARMS ARMY • Russian Ground Forces 138th Guards Mechanised Brigade – Attacking on the Narva-Rakvere-Tallinn axis. • Russian Ground Forces 25th Mechanised Brigade – Attacking on the Voru-Tartu-Tallinn axis. • Russian Ground Forces 9th Artillery Brigade – Provides fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 268th Artillery Brigade – Provides tactical fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 26th Rocket Brigade – Provides operational fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 30th Engineering Regiment – Provides operational engineering support. • Russian Ground Forces 5th Anti-Aircraft Rocket Brigade – Provides operational air defence. Russian Forces Attacking Latvia: • Russian Main Intelligence Directorate 16th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade – attacking targets behind NATO lines. • Russian Airborne Troops 98th Guards Airborne Division – Landing by parachute and airlift at Lielvarde Air Base. 1ST GUARDS TANK ARMY • Russian Ground Forces 2nd Guards Mechanised Division – Attacking on the Gulbene-Sigulda-Riga axis. • Russian Ground Forces 6th Separate Guards Tank Brigade – Attacking on the Gulbene-Sigulda-Riga axis. • Russian Ground Forces 4th Guards Tank Division – Attacking on the Rezekne-Jekabpils-Riga axis. • Russian Ground Forces 27th Guards Mechanised Brigade – Attacking on the Rezekne-Jekabpils-Riga axis. • 20th NBC Defence Regiment – Provides operational fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 53rd Anti-Aircraft Rocket Brigade – Provides operational air defence. • Russian Ground Forces 112th Rocket Brigade – Provides operational fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 288th Artillery Brigade – Provides tactical fires support. Russian Forces Attacking Lithuania:• Russian Naval Infantry 336th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade – Lands at Klaipedia amphibiously. • Russian Airborne Troops 106th Guards Airborne Division – Attacking on the Alytus-Marijampole-Kaliningrad axis to capture the Suwalki Gap. • Russian Airborne Troops 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade – Attacking targets behind NATO lines. 20TH GUARDS COMBINED ARMS ARMY • Russian Ground Forces 1st Separate Guards Tank Brigade – Attacking on the Alytus-Marijampole-Kaliningrad axis to support the VDV. • Russian Ground Forces 3rd Mechanised Division – Attacking on the Vilnius-Kaunus-Klaipeda axis. • Russian Ground Forces 144th Guards Mechanised Division – Attacking on the axis of Vilnius-Ukmerge-Siauliai-Klaipeda. • Russian Ground Forces 448th Rocket Brigade – Provides operational fires support. • Russian Ground Forces 49th Air Defence Rocket Brigade – Provides operational air defence. Russian Forces Defending Kaliningrad:• Russian Ground Forces 152nd Guards Missile Brigade – Provides strategic fires support. • Russian Air & Aerospace Forces 44th Air Defence Division – Provides strategic air defence to the Baltic region. 11TH ARMY CORPS • Russian Ground Forces 7th Guards Mechanised Regiment – Deploys to defend the Bagrationovsk entrance to Kaliningrad. • Russian Ground Forces 11th Independent Tank Regiment – Deploys to defend the Highway 5 entrance to Kaliningrad. • Russian Ground Forces 79th Guards Mechanised Brigade – Deploys to defend the Highway 63 entrance to Kaliningrad. • Russian Ground Forces 244th Artillery Brigade – Provides theatre-level fires support to ground forces in Lithuania. • Russian Ground Forces 22nd Guards Air Defence Missile Regiment – Provides tactical air defence to Kaliningrad.
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Post by gillan1220 on Feb 21, 2021 16:51:40 GMT
Nice find. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by 575 on Apr 11, 2021 16:37:13 GMT
Thanks for sharing - good read but sent me into orbit.
Have begun building an ORBAT of pre-NATO/WAPA 1948-55 then ran into the Soviet - Yugoslav possible War of the 1948-53 and then thought of the GMT Games Stalins War www.gmtgames.com/p-214-stalins-war.aspx; I like board wargames - so could make my own take on this period with the Soviet Famine of 1946-47 thrown in and only limited nukes. Seems Kim Il-Sung threw a spanner in Stalins works. Well researching the period isn't easy but US - Scandinavians (not yet Finland) and some to be WAPA countries been drawn up. I'll post some when progress is made in some regional form like possible Scandinavia will be up first.
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Post by James G on Apr 29, 2021 21:58:37 GMT
There is a story at the minute about a public letter written in France and signed by serving (reservist) and retired generals. The headline is that they are threatening a coup but that really isn't it: massive hyperbole. I was reading somewhere else about an armed intervention to support the legitimate French Government in case of a civil war. That got me thinking...
May 2021 - Coup in France. Doesn't quite work. Massive armed conflict as bits of military fight for Government and other bits for coup plotters. June 2021 - After watching a NATO build-up ready to help, France requests a foreign intervention. Thirteen NATO countries send in major ground units to assist in the fight against the rebels. They attack from all sides. With their own air cover, no serious French air/naval intervention either, NATO forces drive towards Paris and the Provence area to put down the rebellion while also landing on the Brittany coast around Brest. The Channel Tunnel is used, so too are Rhine crossings. Air-landings are made almost unopposed by parachute/airmobile units too. Its all over pretty fast. French Government forces get the friendly support and the rebels are toast.
GERMAN / DUTCH I CORPS (Move into France from the north and northeast) DUTCH ARMY – 43rd Mechanised Brigade GERMAN ARMY – 10TH PANZER DIVISION 12th Panzer Brigade 21st Panzer Brigade Franco-German Brigade GERMAN ARMY / DUTCH ARMY – RAPID FORCES DIVISION (German) 1st Fallschirmjager Brigade (Dutch) 11th Airmobile Brigade (Belgian) Special Operations Regiment
UNITED STATES V CORPS (Move into France from the east) CZECH LAND FORCES – 4th Rapid Deployment Brigade POLISH LAND FORCES – 11TH ARMOURED CAVALRY DIVISION 10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade 17th Mechanized Brigade 34th Armoured Cavalry Brigade US ARMY – 3RD INFANTRY DIVISION 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division 2nd Cavalry Regiment (Polish) 6th Airborne Brigade 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team
UNITED STATES II MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE (Move into France from the north-west: Brittany area to secure nukes) ROYAL MARINES – 3rd Commando Brigade US ARMY – 2nd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division US MARINES – 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade
ALLIED RAPID REACTION CORPS (Move into France from the north: through Pas-de-Calais) CANADIAN ARMY – 2nd Mechanized Brigade Group DANISH ARMY – 1st Brigade BRITISH ARMY – 3RD DIVISION 1st Armoured Infantry Brigade 12th Armoured Infantry Brigade 20th Armoured Infantry Brigade BRITISH ARMY – 6TH DIVISION 7th Infantry Brigade 16th Air Assault Brigade
SPANISH RAPID DEPLOYABLE CORPS (Move into France from the southwest) PORTUGUESE ARMY – Rapid Reaction Brigade SPANISH ARMY – Brigade Almogavares SPANISH ARMY – DIVISION CASTILLEJOS Brigade Aragon Brigade Guadarrama Brigade Rey Alfonso XIII
ITALIAN RAPID DEPLOYABLE CORPS (Move into France from the southeast) CROATIAN ARMY – Mechanized Guard Brigade ITALIAN ARMY – DIVISION TRIDENTINA Alpine Brigade Taurinense Paratroopers Brigade Folgore ITALIAN ARMY – DIVISION VITTORIO VENETO Airmobile Brigade Friuli Cavalry Brigade Pozzuolo del Friuli Armoured Brigade Ariete
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Post by lordroel on May 10, 2021 18:26:47 GMT
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