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[James G]

Aug 23, 2021 18:13:03 GMT lordroel said:

Aug 23, 2021 18:03:57 GMT James G said:

US Army - Summer 1995

1st Armored Division - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Germany
1st Cavalry Division - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Texas
1st Infantry Division (Mechanized) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Kansas
2nd Armored Division - 1st & 2nd Brigades - stationed in Louisiana - to be soon disbanded
2nd Infantry Division (Mechanized) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in South Korea
3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Germany
4th Infantry Division (Mechanized) - 1st & 2nd Brigades - stationed in Colorado
10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) - 1st & 2nd Brigades - stationed in New York state
24th Infantry Division (Mechanized) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Georgia state - to be soon disbanded
25th Infantry Division (Light) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Hawaii
82nd Airborne Division - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in North Carolina
101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) - 1st, 2nd & 3rd Brigades - stationed in Kentucky

1st Infantry Brigade (Light), 6th Infantry Division - stationed in Alaska - capstoned to 10th Mountain Division
1st Infantry Brigade (Light), 7th Infantry Division - stationed in California - to be soon disbanded
157th Infantry Brigade (Mechanized), US Army Reserve - stationed in Pennsylvania & Arizona - to be soon disbanded

1st Infantry Regiment - stationed in New York state - administrative, non-combat unit
2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment (Light) - stationed in Louisiana
3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment - stationed in Texas
3rd Infantry Regiment - stationed in Washington, DC - administrative, non-combat unit
11th Armored Cavalry Regiment - stationed in California - training unit

A OTL orbat.

Yep, what it was in July/August that year before the big axe was taken to chop it down further.

[redrobin65]

This is set in the HOI4 video game/mod Kaiserreich.

Austro-Hungarian Forces, 1941

Eastern Europe: Belarus and Western Ukraine


Third Army


II Corps

    - 2nd (Austrian) Infantry Division

    - 11th k.u.k Infantry Division

    - 12th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 17th k.u.k. Infantry Division


IV Corps

    - 6th (Austrian) Infantry Division

    - 28th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 32nd k.u.k. Infantry Division


Rapid Corps

    - 1st (Austrian) Armoured Division

    - 13th (Hungarian) Cavalry Division

    - 14th (Austrian) Motorized Division



Seventh Army

IX Corps

    - 10th k.u.k Infantry Division

    - 17th (Hungarian) Infantry Division

    - 20th (Hungarian) Infantry Division


X Corps

    - 92nd k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 100th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 107th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 12th (Austrian) Cavalry Division


Balkans


Sixth Army (Against Serbia)


VII Corps

    - 16th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 19th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 29th (Illyrian) Infantry Division


XX Corps

    - 40th (Austrian) Infantry Division

    - 50th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 52nd (Illyrian) Infantry Division

    - 55th k.u.k. Infantry Division


Thirteenth Army (Against Romania)


I Corps

    - 15th (Hungarian) Infantry Division

    - 22nd (Hungarian) Infantry Division

    - 24th (Hungarian) Infantry Division

    - 2nd (Hungarian) Armoured Brigade

III Corps

    - 30th (Austrian) Infantry Division

    - 62nd k.u.k Infantry Division

    - 63rd k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 70th (Hungarian) Infantry Division


Southern Germany


XIII Corps (Attached to German Twenty-Second Army)

    - 9th (Austrian) Mountain Division

    - 18th (Austrian) Infantry Division

    - 5th (Austrian) Armoured Division

    - 26th (Austrian) Motorized Division


Northern Italy


First Army


V Corps

    - 8th (Austrian) Mountain Division

    - 19th (Austrian) Mountain Division

    - 40th k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 6th k.u.k. Armoured Brigade


XVI Corps

    - 43rd k.u.k. Infantry Division

    - 80th (Illyrian) Infantry Division

    -  101st (Hungarian) Infantry Division

[gillan1220]

Eastern Order of Battle

Get a glimpse of air forces of countries in the East, from Russia, China, and Africa. Part of this content are never-before seen photos of how these air forces looked like in the 1980s-90s.

[gillan1220]

From page 54 of the Dragon's Fury - World War Against The West

GIR ARMED FORCES

ANALYSIS ARMY AND AIR FORCES

Country	Infantry Divisions	Armored Divisions	Tanks	APCs	Attack Helicopters	Aircraft
Iran	35	15	1350	900	250	250
Afghanistan	5	3	250	300	100	100
Turkmenistan	2	3	500	800	20	150
Uzbekistan	3	1	200	400	20	100
Tajikistan		1	100	100	10	50
Kyrgyzstan		1	100	100	25	100
Best Case GIR	45	24	2500	2600	425	750
Iraq	10	5	1000	1000	200	100
Pakistan	35	20	2000	900	150	200
Worst Case	90	49	4500	4500	775	1050
Modern Equipment	50	25	2000	2000	300	500

Naval

Country	Frigates (FFG)	Submarines	Aircraft
Iran	16	6	32
Pakistan	14	12	24
Worst Case GIR	30	15	56

[gillan1220]

Most Powerful Military in 2022 Ranked

[coilerxii]

Turkic Republic Armed Forces

(Note: This is an amalgam of Central Asian countries, created in-universe as part of an unsuccessful attempt to gerrymander the USSR in a way to suppress nationalism).

Turkic Republic Airborne Forces
Airborne Division "Sogdia" (Samarkand)

Airborne Division "Chaqmoq [Lightning]" (Tashkent)

Guards Airborne Armored Division (Shelitovsk)

1st Airborne SPF Brigade (Osh)

2nd Airborne SPF Brigade (Almaty)

Airborne Forces Rear Services Command (Shelitovsk)

_ _ _ _

The Turkic Republic's "Airborne Forces" are more of a Republican/Revolutionary Guard-style parallel army than an actual paratroop force, and thus are the best trained and equipped units in its army. The centerpiece is the Guards Airborne Armored Division, a "balanced division" of two motor rifle and tank regiments each, headquartered around the fictional capital of Shelitovsk. The Sogdia Division is a fairly standard BMD-equipped one and trains the most in actual parachute operations, while the Chaqmoq division has organic tank units attached. The two SPF brigades are light infantry/spetsnaz equivalents.

[lordroel]

Mar 29, 2022 16:24:57 GMT coilerxii said:

Turkic Republic Armed Forces

(Note: This is an amalgam of Central Asian countries, created in-universe as part of an unsuccessful attempt to gerrymander the USSR in a way to suppress nationalism).

Turkic Republic Airborne Forces
Airborne Division "Sogdia" (Samarkand)

Airborne Division "Chaqmoq [Lightning]" (Tashkent)

Guards Airborne Armored Division (Shelitovsk)

1st Airborne SPF Brigade (Osh)

2nd Airborne SPF Brigade (Almaty)

Airborne Forces Rear Services Command (Shelitovsk)

_ _ _ _

The Turkic Republic's "Airborne Forces" are more of a Republican/Revolutionary Guard-style parallel army than an actual paratroop force, and thus are the best trained and equipped units in its army. The centerpiece is the Guards Airborne Armored Division, a "balanced division" of two motor rifle and tank regiments each, headquartered around the fictional capital of Shelitovsk. The Sogdia Division is a fairly standard BMD-equipped one and trains the most in actual parachute operations, while the Chaqmoq division has organic tank units attached. The two SPF brigades are light infantry/spetsnaz equivalents.

So this would be the Turkic Republic, minus Turkey who i assume will have very good relations with them.

[coilerxii]

Mar 29, 2022 16:29:46 GMT lordroel said:

So this would be the Turkic Republic, minus Turkey who i assume will have very good relations with them.

1: It doesn't have Azerbaijan.

2: Turkey and the TR I'm actually making as rivals, at least initially.

[coilerxii]

Turkic Republic Army

1st Army (Astana):

2nd Motor Rifle Division (Uzunkol)

3rd Motor Rifle Division (Aktobe)

19th Tank Division (Oskemen)

_ _ _

The First Army guards the Russian border, and is the least reformed and smallest formation in the Turkic Army.

2nd Mountain Army (Tashkent)

18th Mountain Division (Almaty)

26th Motor Rifle Division (Jizzakh)

30th "Guards" Mountain Division (Termez)

38th Motor Rifle Division (Fergana)

39th Mountain Brigade (Bishkek)

_ _ _ _

Only the 39th Brigade is a true specialized mountain unit, with the rest using "mountain" primarily as an honorific. The 30th division has seen substantial action across the Afghan border, both overt and covert.

3rd Army (Ashgabat)

6th Motor Rifle Division (Ashgabat)

40th Tank Division (Mary)

27th Motor Rifle Division (Turkmenabat)

8th Motor Rifle Division (Annau)

_ _ _ _ _

Guards the border with Iran.

[lordroel]

Mar 30, 2022 6:43:33 GMT coilerxii said:

Mar 29, 2022 16:29:46 GMT lordroel said:

So this would be the Turkic Republic, minus Turkey who i assume will have very good relations with them.

1: It doesn't have Azerbaijan.

2: Turkey and the TR I'm actually making as rivals, at least initially.

Is the TR one big single country ore made up of member states.

[simon darkshade]

filestore.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pdfs/small/cab-129-100-c-14.pdf

The 1960 Defence White Paper. It contains some good force and budget data at the end.

[simon darkshade]

archives.nato.int/uploads/r/null/2/3/23563/C-M_54_96_ENG.pdf

The Special Agreement annexed to the Treaty on the Establishment of a European Defence Community.

This provides us with the first numbers on the force levels for a rearmed West Germany in addition to other target force levels. Divisions are called 'groups' after the language contained in the Treaty.

[simon darkshade]

www.nytimes.com/1862/07/10/archives/the-military-force-of-france-the-actual-organization-of-the-army.html

An order of battle for the French Army in 1862.

[stevep]

Jan 20, 2023 15:43:24 GMT simon darkshade said:

www.nytimes.com/1862/07/10/archives/the-military-force-of-france-the-actual-organization-of-the-army.html

An order of battle for the French Army in 1862.

  Damn - already reached my limit for this month in terms of reads.   Sounds interesting, although is it formal documents from the French military or a reporter saying what he interprets the French army as having.

[simon darkshade]

It is quite detailed public source material from the time, without much supposition, but with some decent reflection.