Drake's Drum

[lordroel]

Jun 28, 2019 15:19:45 GMT nicksumner said:

"The design of the Caracciolo class battleships went through several phases and was even changed after the ship was laid down. The Italian Admiralty were unhappy with the placing of the mainmast in the early design, citing the problem of smoke interference from the forefunnel. The decision to move the conning tower and mainmast forward caused a rearrangement of the forward turrets. As well as this, ‘A’ turret was judged to be too near the end of the ship in a position where the movement of the hull in a lively sea would affect gunnery adversely. Also, the height of the turret rear (due to the height of the forecastle) meant that end on fire forward with B turret at 0 degrees elevation was impossible. When ‘A’ turret was moved aft it had little effect on internal arrangements but a two feet reduction in the height of A barbette was acheived because it was further back on the sloping focsle. A small increase in the height of ‘B’ barbette was also made. The photographs show the ship as she was in the late 1920s and after her reconstruction in 1944." www.drakesdrum.co.uk

Love to ships and dazzle camouflage.

[stevep]

   Nick

   Sounds like Britain is in a better condition if it can afford something like the Warrior post war.

   So the Italians build the Caracciolo's and obvious find it worthwhile to reconstruct them in the early 40's, which shows them having a considerably different war.

  Steve

[lordroel]

Jun 28, 2019 16:16:17 GMT stevep said:

   Nick

   Sounds like Britain is in a better condition if it can afford something like the Warrior post war.

   So the Italians build the Caracciolo's and obvious find it worthwhile to reconstruct them in the early 40's, which shows them having a considerably different war.

  Steve

stevep, are we talking about this class: Francesco Caracciolo-class battleship

[stevep]

Jun 28, 2019 16:31:14 GMT lordroel said:

Jun 28, 2019 16:16:17 GMT stevep said:

   Nick

   Sounds like Britain is in a better condition if it can afford something like the Warrior post war.

   So the Italians build the Caracciolo's and obvious find it worthwhile to reconstruct them in the early 40's, which shows them having a considerably different war.

  Steve

stevep , are we talking about this class: Francesco Caracciolo-class battleship

  I would expect so from the name.  Another planned class that didn't survive WWI or its aftermath as Italy became too bogged down in murderous fighting on the Alpine front.

[lordroel]

Jun 28, 2019 17:06:08 GMT stevep said:

Jun 28, 2019 16:31:14 GMT lordroel said:

stevep , are we talking about this class: Francesco Caracciolo-class battleship

  I would expect so from the name.  Another planned class that didn't survive WWI or its aftermath as Italy became too bogged down in murderous fighting on the Alpine front.

If nicksumner does not mind, found another one of here.

[nicksumner]

Nicely done! Is that one of Alt_Naval's?

[lordroel]

Jun 28, 2019 22:08:04 GMT nicksumner said:

Nicely done! Is that one of Alt_Naval's?

I found this on a forum called ships nostalgia:

Francesco Caracciolo

[nicksumner]

There are new updates to the Drake's Drum website. The Photographs section has been expanded and Appendix 17: The Royal Navy Air Arm 1932 to 46 has been posted.



Above: A Fairey Firefly Mk II. This aircraft originated with a 1939 Royal Navy specification, NAD925/39A for an interceptor. A parallel project for a two seat fighter with a much thicker wing to specification N.8/39 did not proceed far.



Above: A RAAF Cormorant Mk II at Darwin, 1946. The RAAF used small numbers of ex-Royal Navy Cormorants as land based dive bombers, though the dive bombing role was later supplanted by fighter-bombers. The Cormorant naval dive bomber was based on the Boulton Paul P.96A design.



Above: A Cutlass IIIB of 849 Squadron RN in flight over Singapore 1945. The Cutlass saw action in the early part of the campaign in South East Asia but was phased out by mid 1946.



Above: Above: Hawker Sea Furies. The type's powerful Bristol Gemini engine made it extremely fast.

[lordroel]

Jul 6, 2019 16:36:35 GMT nicksumner said:

There are new updates to the Drake's Drum website. The Photographs section has been expanded and Appendix 17: The Royal Navy Air Arm 1932 to 46 has been posted.



Above: A Fairey Firefly Mk II. This aircraft originated with a 1939 Royal Navy specification, NAD925/39A for an interceptor. A parallel project for a two seat fighter with a much thicker wing to specification N.8/39 did not proceed far.



Above: A RAAF Cormorant Mk II at Darwin, 1946. The RAAF used small numbers of ex-Royal Navy Cormorants as land based dive bombers, though the dive bombing role was later supplanted by fighter-bombers. The Cormorant naval dive bomber was based on the Boulton Paul P.96A design.



Above: A Cutlass IIIB of 849 Squadron RN in flight over Singapore 1945. The Cutlass saw action in the early part of the campaign in South East Asia but was phased out by mid 1946.



Above: Above: Hawker Sea Furies. The type's powerful Bristol Gemini engine made it extremely fast.

Nice pictures nicksumner , also a great and detailed Royal Navy Air Arm that can be found on your website.

[stevep]

Nick

Well that hints that the war goes on some way into 46 at least. Mind you if Dark Colossus is the TL I think I can remember that may not be a surprise.

Steve

[lordroel]

Jul 6, 2019 19:13:33 GMT stevep said:

Nick

Well that hints that the war goes on some way into 46 at least. Mind you if Dark Colossus is the TL I think I can remember that may not be a surprise.

Steve

So looking at Appendix 17: The Royal Navy Air Arm 1932 to 46 we can see:

HMS Majestic, Majestic-class light aircraft carrier which in OTL work was suspended in 1945 is serving with the Royal Navy in the Drake's Drumverse in 1947.

A Royal Netherlands Aircraft carrier named HNLMS Gerardus Berenschot after the OTL Commander-in-Chief of the (Royal Netherlands East Indies Army).

[nicksumner]

stevep and lordroel, I can't really comment without giving away spoilers...

[lordroel]

Jul 6, 2019 21:30:01 GMT nicksumner said:

stevep and lordroel, I can't really comment without giving away spoilers...

But that does not mean that me and stevep can not speculate, also i respect you decision to keep this thread spoiler

[nicksumner]

Some Regia Marina carriers from the Drake's Drum timeline. Top Leonardo Da Vinci after her reconstruction. Bottom, Aquila at sea, 1946.

[nicksumner]

Top: An Me 364 bomber prepares to take off. The outboard jetisonable undercarriage legs are in place, suggesting she has a full load. Bottom: A Ju 187 of TragerGruppen 186 from the carrier Strasser.