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Post by James G on Apr 8, 2020 7:49:02 GMT
I'll get there eventually. Currently, this is all pre-war stuff. But I'll push on with it. I assume the British Armed forces in 1994 are bigger than OTL 1994. Yes, larger though not too much because there are no Union troops inside Eastern Europe.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 8, 2020 14:57:26 GMT
I assume the British Armed forces in 1994 are bigger than OTL 1994. Yes, larger though not too much because there are no Union troops inside Eastern Europe. But still large enough to react if Union forces decide to visit Eastern Europe again.
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Post by forcon on May 8, 2020 6:42:33 GMT
What's the difference between second and first rate us army divisions here? I noticed that some active units are second rate while some guard units are first rate.
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2020 8:51:04 GMT
What's the difference between second and first rate us army divisions here? I noticed that some active units are second rate while some guard units are first rate. I only toughed the Soviet Union three readiness categories, A, B, and V.
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Post by stevep on May 8, 2020 10:04:18 GMT
What's the difference between second and first rate us army divisions here? I noticed that some active units are second rate while some guard units are first rate. I only toughed the Soviet Union three readiness categories, A, B, and V.
Unless forcon, got his wires crossed he's talking about the US forces here rather than the Russian ones.
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2020 10:12:38 GMT
I only toughed the Soviet Union three readiness categories, A, B, and V. Unless forcon, got his wires crossed he's talking about the US forces here rather than the Russian ones. Steve
But that was the thing i wondered, i know the US has regular, national guard and state defense forces, but never heard about that some where first ore second rate.
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Post by stevep on May 8, 2020 10:29:59 GMT
Unless forcon , got his wires crossed he's talking about the US forces here rather than the Russian ones. Steve
But that was the thing i wondered, i know the US has regular, national guard and state defense forces, but never heard about that some where first ore second rate.
Agree with that. Possibly he's referring to regular and reserve units? The latter are from the National Guard which is possibly where there was a reference to 'guard' units as being 2nd rate/reservist?
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Post by forcon on May 8, 2020 10:39:47 GMT
I was referring to US units; some of the active-duty divisions are classed as second-rate, while some of the National Guard divisions are classified first rate.
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Post by stevep on May 8, 2020 11:04:42 GMT
I was referring to US units; some of the active-duty divisions are classed as second-rate, while some of the National Guard divisions are classified first rate.
OK thanks for clarifying.
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Post by James G on May 8, 2020 11:46:19 GMT
The first-rate / second-rate issue is just something I left in when transferring it from my notes. I should have clarified it but didn't think it would be an issue. It just means that with regard to service, some are higher quality than others. In the ARNG, there are deployable and non-deployable units - first and second class - and in the US Army, there are better ones than others. As to the Soviet Army, and ITTL's Union Army, they had/have their own system of readiness category: NATO created its own version for its own use. There were Full Strength Ready units, Reduced Strength Ready 1 & Reduced Strength Ready 2, Not Ready High Strength Cadre & Not Ready Low Strength Cadre, and Mobilisation units. If using what NATO called them, they would be A B+ B- C+ C- D units. There's info on that here: www.ww2.dk/new/army/readiness.htm
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2020 12:12:10 GMT
I was referring to US units; some of the active-duty divisions are classed as second-rate, while some of the National Guard divisions are classified first rate. OK thanks for clarifying.
Second that, thanks for clarifying it forcon.
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