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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 12:08:34 GMT
November 10, 1957
"Allen Pope, this court finds you guilty of murder. You are hereby sentenced to death and remanded to Cipinang Penitentiary until such time as your sentence may be carried out." If that happens unlike OTL then the relations between the United States and Indonesia will be very frosty. Only country who befits from it is the Netherlands who unlike OTL does not have to worry that the United States chose Indonesia over them in the New Guinea conflict. That was actually his OTL sentence. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 12:16:25 GMT
RIP WWII aircraft, Allen Pope, and also future USN budgets... With 8 reactors per ship, even more than Nimitz OTL fleet this Enterprise fleet will be expensive, maintenance included. There were good reasons OTL that they waited a decade to build Nimitzs. Yup. This looks like a huge win for the USN. Until you realize that it will likely cost $900 million for both ships when the projected cost was only $600 million. And the Navy wants 41 SSBNs. And a bunch of new aircraft. And a whole lot of new missile armed escorts. Including a bunch that are nuclear powered. So yeah, the Navy's shipbuilding budget is pretty much wrecked. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 14:38:20 GMT
If that happens unlike OTL then the relations between the United States and Indonesia will be very frosty. Only country who befits from it is the Netherlands who unlike OTL does not have to worry that the United States chose Indonesia over them in the New Guinea conflict. That was actually his OTL sentence. But the question will will it happen here ore he is silent send home like OTL. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 15:08:59 GMT
That was actually his OTL sentence. But the question will will it happen here ore he is silent send home like OTL. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 15:11:49 GMT
But the question will will it happen here ore he is silent send home like OTL. Well we have to wait and see what you will come up with then. Also how many reactors are needed fro one single Enterprise-class. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 15:22:09 GMT
Each ship requires 8 reactors. The USN was very conservative in the design of the class and replaced the oil fired boilers on a one for one basis
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Post by archibald on Sept 28, 2020 17:07:52 GMT
Each ship requires 8 reactors. The USN was very conservative in the design of the class and replaced the oil fired boilers on a one for one basis Ah. I assumed the reactors were not powerful enough before Nimitz so they needed a bunch of smaller ones. But this, really ? sounds silly ... |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 18:06:46 GMT
Each ship requires 8 reactors. The USN was very conservative in the design of the class and replaced the oil fired boilers on a one for one basis Ah. I assumed the reactors were not powerful enough before Nimitz so they needed a bunch of smaller ones. But this, really ? sounds silly ... A little of Collumn A, a little of Collumn B. The reactors weren't powerful enough to go with only 2 like the Nimitz class. But to put it in perspective, Enterprise could reach flank speed on just 4 reactors. She only needed to bring the others online to provide enough steam to launch aircraft. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 18:09:22 GMT
Ah. I assumed the reactors were not powerful enough before Nimitz so they needed a bunch of smaller ones. But this, really ? sounds silly ... A little of Collumn A, a little of Collumn B. The reactors weren't powerful enough to go with only 2 like the Nimitz class. But to put it in perspective, Enterprise could reach flank speed on just 4 reactors. She only needed to bring the others online to provide enough steam to launch aircraft. Are Enterprise CVA(N)-65 and America CVA(N)-66 the same ore are there some difference between them. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 18:18:35 GMT
A little of Collumn A, a little of Collumn B. The reactors weren't powerful enough to go with only 2 like the Nimitz class. But to put it in perspective, Enterprise could reach flank speed on just 4 reactors. She only needed to bring the others online to provide enough steam to launch aircraft. Are Enterprise CVA(N)-65 and America CVA(N)-66 the same ore are there some difference between them. There may be minor differences along the lines of the shipyard going, "if we put this here instead of there, we can shave a week off construction time." But nothing major. And to the public, and even most of the crew, they will be to all intents and purposes identical. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 18:20:09 GMT
Are Enterprise CVA(N)-65 and America CVA(N)-66 the same ore are there some difference between them. There may be minor differences along the lines of the shipyard going, "if we put this here instead of there, we can shave a week off construction time." But nothing major. And to the public, and even most of the crew, they will be to all intents and purposes identical. So if there are going to be a total of 6 Enterprise class carriers, that are going to be a heck load of reactors to build. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 18:24:46 GMT
There may be minor differences along the lines of the shipyard going, "if we put this here instead of there, we can shave a week off construction time." But nothing major. And to the public, and even most of the crew, they will be to all intents and purposes identical. So if there are going to be a total of 6 Enterprise class carriers, that are going to be a heck load of reactors to build. Assuming they all get built. But 6 ships was the OTL number that was planned. In fact, America was ordered as an Enterprise class carrier but was reordered as a Kitty Hawk class carrier before being laid down due to the spiraling cost of Enterprise. Here, she'll be under construction before Congress realizes what's going on. Just don't plan on seeing any more get built |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 18:27:14 GMT
So if there are going to be a total of 6 Enterprise class carriers, that are going to be a heck load of reactors to build. Assuming they all get built. But 6 ships was the OTL number that was planned. In fact, America was ordered as an Enterprise class carrier but was reordered as a Kitty Hawk class carrier before being laid down due to the spiraling cost of Enterprise. Here, she'll be under construction before Congress realizes what's going on. Just don't plan on seeing any more get built So we might see Kitty Hawk class as CVA(N)-67 as third in the Enterprise class ore first of here own class. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 28, 2020 18:33:16 GMT
Assuming they all get built. But 6 ships was the OTL number that was planned. In fact, America was ordered as an Enterprise class carrier but was reordered as a Kitty Hawk class carrier before being laid down due to the spiraling cost of Enterprise. Here, she'll be under construction before Congress realizes what's going on. Just don't plan on seeing any more get built So we might see Kitty Hawk class as CVA(N)-67 as third in the Enterprise class ore first of here own class. No. Kitty Hawk was built before Enterprise. She was CV-63. The Navy just reordered America to the newest conventional design they had to get her in the water as fast as possible. The next hull number available is 67, but whether she'll be CVA or CVAN? You'll just have to keep reading. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 28, 2020 18:37:38 GMT
So we might see Kitty Hawk class as CVA(N)-67 as third in the Enterprise class ore first of here own class. No. Kitty Hawk was built before Enterprise. She was CV-63. The Navy just reordered America to the newest conventional design they had to get her in the water as fast as possible. The next hull number available is 67, but whether she'll be CVA or CVAN? You'll just have to keep reading. A thanks for the explanation, it is hard to keep track on US carrier if you do not know it, its is even harder when there are US carrier being build in a TL like this. |
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