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Post by stevep on Sept 6, 2020 12:45:08 GMT
From a control room high up in one of the hangers, President Sukarno smiled. His country now had to means to directly attack the damn Dutch on West Irian. Soon, they would have a full squadron of the aircraft he saw below him. As the lights shined down on the flight of four light bombers, Soviet and Indonesian ground crew started the process of replacing the Soviet Red Star with a red Indonesian roundel on the IL-28s that would soon constitute the striking arm of the Indonesian Air Force. And they look good, now the Netherlands really needs to send more and better fighters to be able to intercept these big boys. 
Not just the Netherlands. As it said Australia and also Malaya, another target for Indonesians aggression, are likely to feel imperiled. They and also Britain, still an important power at the time, and the US could feel the need to beef up their forces in the region.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 6, 2020 12:53:38 GMT
And they look good, now the Netherlands really needs to send more and better fighters to be able to intercept these big boys. Not just the Netherlands. As it said Australia and also Malaya, another target for Indonesians aggression, are likely to feel imperiled. They and also Britain, still an important power at the time, and the US could feel the need to beef up their forces in the region.
Seems the CIA is already going to do some beefing up in Indonesia in supporting rebels on Sulawesi. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 6, 2020 13:07:59 GMT
Not just the Netherlands. As it said Australia and also Malaya, another target for Indonesians aggression, are likely to feel imperiled. They and also Britain, still an important power at the time, and the US could feel the need to beef up their forces in the region.
Seems the CIA is already going to do some beefing up in Indonesia in supporting rebels on Sulawesi. The CIA is sending WWII cast offs. They have badly underestimated Indonesian capabilities |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 6, 2020 13:08:42 GMT
And they look good, now the Netherlands really needs to send more and better fighters to be able to intercept these big boys.
Not just the Netherlands. As it said Australia and also Malaya, another target for Indonesians aggression, are likely to feel imperiled. They and also Britain, still an important power at the time, and the US could feel the need to beef up their forces in the region.
Oh, it's about to get so much worse... |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 6, 2020 13:10:38 GMT
Not just the Netherlands. As it said Australia and also Malaya, another target for Indonesians aggression, are likely to feel imperiled. They and also Britain, still an important power at the time, and the US could feel the need to beef up their forces in the region.
Oh, it's about to get so much worse... The start of the Indonesian War instead of Vietnam war maybe. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 6, 2020 13:36:37 GMT
Oh, it's about to get so much worse... The start of the Indonesian War instead of Vietnam war maybe. *inspects fingernails closely and whistles innocently* |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 6, 2020 13:39:10 GMT
The start of the Indonesian War instead of Vietnam war maybe. *inspects fingernails closely and whistles innocently* Because if Indonesia goes to war it will be with more nations that is good for here. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 11, 2020 21:04:26 GMT
September 21, 1957
Iswahyudi Air Force Base, East Java, Indonesia
The first completed Shenyang F-5 leaves the runway at Iswahyudi. Unlike the Soviets who sent a large training detachment led by a full Colonel, the Chinese training detachment is significantly smaller. Also unlike the Soviet detachment, the first flight is not being made by the detachment commander, but by Senior Officer (Captain) Zhao Baotong. The Major commanding the detachment had good reason for this though. Shang wei Zhao was an ace of the Korean War with nine kills to his name, the highest scoring pilot of the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force. He had also been trained as a test pilot after the war, so was the ideal man to test a newly assembled fighter.
As Shang wei Zhao put his newly reassembled Fresco through its paces and ran down the checklist to ensure everything had been put back together satisfactorily, he looked out over the vast expanse of the Pacific Ocean from his cockpit at ten thousand meters and savored the view. Indonesia sure as hell beat Korea when it came to foreign postings. He was honored that he had been chosen to be part of the training detachment.
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 11, 2020 21:08:27 GMT
October 30, 1957
Moscow, Russian SFSR
President Sukarno meets with Soviet Premier Nikolai Bulganin in an official state visit. The two men spend the day discussing "matters of mutual interest." In reality, a preliminary agreement is reached to provide Indonesia with up to thirty-six MiG-19PM fighters and twenty-four TU-16 bombers. President Sukarno also expresses interest in acquiring Komet anti-ship missiles.
Beyond the weapons sales, Indonesia and the USSR begin to discus allowing Soviet forces to train in Indonesia in jungle and tropical warfare. A series of port visits by Red Fleet ships are also floated along with plans to have Soviet Air Force strategic bombers rotate through the country as a refueling waypoint while on their patrols. President Sukarno also agrees to allow Soviet military aircraft to use Indonesian airfields as emergency diversion fields in the event of an inflight emergency.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 12, 2020 6:30:00 GMT
October 30, 1957
Moscow, Russian SFSRPresident Sukarno meets with Soviet Premier Nikolai Bulganin in an official state visit. The two men spend the day discussing "matters of mutual interest." In reality, a preliminary agreement is reached to provide Indonesia with up to thirty-six MiG-19PM fighters and twenty-four TU-16 bombers. President Sukarno also expresses interest in acquiring Komet anti-ship missiles. Are these the maritime versions of TU-16 aircraft who are equipped to launch the AS-1 Kennel anti-ship missiles. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 12, 2020 10:35:39 GMT
October 30, 1957
Moscow, Russian SFSRPresident Sukarno meets with Soviet Premier Nikolai Bulganin in an official state visit. The two men spend the day discussing "matters of mutual interest." In reality, a preliminary agreement is reached to provide Indonesia with up to thirty-six MiG-19PM fighters and twenty-four TU-16 bombers. President Sukarno also expresses interest in acquiring Komet anti-ship missiles. Are these the maritime versions of TU-16 aircraft who are equipped to launch the AS-1 Kennel anti-ship missiles. Half and half. 12 maritime strike versions and 12 land attack. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 12, 2020 11:02:56 GMT
Are these the maritime versions of TU-16 aircraft who are equipped to launch the AS-1 Kennel anti-ship missiles. Half and half. 12 maritime strike versions and 12 land attack. As there are no Dutch carriers in the region, the most likely target for the Kennels will be US Navy carriers. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 12, 2020 12:40:21 GMT
Half and half. 12 maritime strike versions and 12 land attack. As there are no Dutch carriers in the region, the most likely target for the Kennels will be US Navy carriers. Keep in mind, these aircraft aren't going to show up tomorrow. Not to mention, it's one thing to plan to fight a war with a broken and weakened former colonial power. It's quite another to even think about challenging the United States |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 12, 2020 12:53:50 GMT
As there are no Dutch carriers in the region, the most likely target for the Kennels will be US Navy carriers. Keep in mind, these aircraft aren't going to show up tomorrow. Not to mention, it's one thing to plan to fight a war with a broken and weakened former colonial power. It's quite another to even think about challenging the United States And when has it stop some of them from trying especially if Indonesia thinks the got the full weight of China and the Soviet Union begins them. |
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Post by ssgtc on Sept 12, 2020 14:54:18 GMT
Keep in mind, these aircraft aren't going to show up tomorrow. Not to mention, it's one thing to plan to fight a war with a broken and weakened former colonial power. It's quite another to even think about challenging the United States And when has it stop some of them from trying especially if Indonesia thinks the got the full weight of China and the Soviet Union begins them. No, they are well aware that there are limits to how far the USSR and PRC are willing to go. |
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