James G
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Post by James G on Aug 5, 2021 18:23:59 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy I only heard of this the other day. I know who Burr was, famous for that fatal duel, but there was more I was unaware of. He was VP under Jefferson though for only one term. During and after that, he was accused of seeking to build his own country. Jefferson had him arrested for treason but Burr was never convicted. The idea was to build himself a state in the US southwest. Secession wasn't illegal then and he also apparently aimed to take a portion of New Spain (Mexico/Texas) too. I'm trying to imagine a world where Burr-land - I just made that name up - succeeded as a country. How does it survive? What major changes does a new country like that there at the beginnings of the 1800s have in the Americas and the world at large?
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Post by lordroel on Aug 5, 2021 18:34:15 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy I only heard of this the other day. I know who Burr was, famous for that fatal duel, but there was more I was unaware of. He was VP under Jefferson though for only one term. During and after that, he was accused of seeking to build his own country. Jefferson had him arrested for treason but Burr was never convicted. The idea was to build himself a state in the US southwest. Secession wasn't illegal then and he also apparently aimed to take a portion of New Spain (Mexico/Texas) too. I'm trying to imagine a world where Burr-land - I just made that name up - succeeded as a country. How does it survive? What major changes does a new country like that there at the beginnings of the 1800s have in the Americas and the world at large? What about this James G: What if: Aaron Burr had missed Alexander Hamilton, be aware it is a CNN report. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 6, 2021 8:52:22 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy I only heard of this the other day. I know who Burr was, famous for that fatal duel, but there was more I was unaware of. He was VP under Jefferson though for only one term. During and after that, he was accused of seeking to build his own country. Jefferson had him arrested for treason but Burr was never convicted. The idea was to build himself a state in the US southwest. Secession wasn't illegal then and he also apparently aimed to take a portion of New Spain (Mexico/Texas) too. I'm trying to imagine a world where Burr-land - I just made that name up - succeeded as a country. How does it survive? What major changes does a new country like that there at the beginnings of the 1800s have in the Americas and the world at large? What about this James G : What if: Aaron Burr had missed Alexander Hamilton, be aware it is a CNN report.
Well that's a nasty future for the US, albeit I suspect Hamilton would have failed, either against the UK or due to internal opposition to his despotic ways. See what you mean about the CNN warning.
I have heard a bit about Burr's proposals before. He apparently was working on resentment by the westerner [albeit we're talking about west of the Appalachians and east of the Mississippi here] about they way they were being dominated by those in the big coastal areas. Also have heard that the Spanish actually had a lot of local military officials and possibly some political figures in their pay so they might have supported the idea of this region breaking away from the US as, if successful it would have weakened the immediate threat to their colonies in Florida and Louisiana. Never heard before of any British support for the plan but could be wrong there. Although who Burr would be taking to I don't know as I doubt he was ever in London.
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