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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 8, 2021 3:47:24 GMT
With a PoD of 1945, how can Yugoslavia survive as an intact state with the same boundaries to the present day? Bonus points if you avoid all large scale violence.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 8, 2021 5:42:28 GMT
With a PoD of 1945, how can Yugoslavia survive as an intact state with the same boundaries to the present day? Bonus points if you avoid all large scale violence. Would remaining a monarchy be helpful to its survival.
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 8, 2021 6:10:49 GMT
Very difficult to engineer as of 1945.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 8, 2021 6:12:03 GMT
Very difficult to engineer as of 1945. Less power to the Serbians who dominated Yugoslavia politics.
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Post by stevep on Sept 8, 2021 15:20:39 GMT
Very difficult to engineer as of 1945. Less power to the Serbians who dominated Yugoslavia politics.
I think part of the problem was that the other large population group, the Croats, had been discredited due to their brutal fascist regime during WWII. Also while Tito was alive he kept a close grip on power and suppressing sectarian activities but this failed to continue after his death in 1980.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 8, 2021 15:25:16 GMT
Less power to the Serbians who dominated Yugoslavia politics. I think part of the problem was that the other large population group, the Croats, had been discredited due to their brutal fascist regime during WWII. Also while Tito was alive he kept a close grip on power and suppressing sectarian activities but this failed to continue after his death in 1980.
Having Tito die early then, let’s say in the 60s ore 70s, could that give the country more time.
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Post by stevep on Sept 8, 2021 16:54:06 GMT
I think part of the problem was that the other large population group, the Croats, had been discredited due to their brutal fascist regime during WWII. Also while Tito was alive he kept a close grip on power and suppressing sectarian activities but this failed to continue after his death in 1980.
Having Tito die early then, let’s say in the 60s ore 70s, could that give the country more time.
I doubt this. It was him that largely keep things under control so an earlier death for him could see it fall apart sooner.
Although the other factor to consider here was the collapse of the Soviet empire. While it was in place then Yugoslavia had a strong incentive to stay united as a way of protecting its independence during the cold war. Few if any wanted to come under Soviet control. The ending of the empire meant that this factor was removed.
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Post by fatman10101 on Sept 19, 2021 6:11:06 GMT
Get rid of Milosevic before 1980.
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Post by James G on Oct 6, 2021 18:45:06 GMT
Get rid of Milosevic before 1980. Maybe, but Serbian nationalism was always going to break out eventually. An idea I had: break apart the structure of the republics and autonomous regions early on. Build a Yugoslav identity, force one language into sole use. Centralise power. No leeway given at all to any idea of separate national identity within the country.
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