Frivolous ASB thread

[Zyobot]

Sept 5, 2019 1:41:12 GMT mullauna said:

It's Fabulous Fifties, not Golden. surely?

Meh, I say that because—at least to my understanding—it’s regarded as a golden age of modern American history. That’s a notion that I’d rather contest, but whatever.

Anyways, going back to frivolous ASB scenarios, ‘WI All Planets In Our Solar Systems—Excluding Earth—Were Made Of Cheese’?

[lordroel]

Sept 6, 2019 15:49:33 GMT Zyobot said:

Sept 5, 2019 1:41:12 GMT mullauna said:

It's Fabulous Fifties, not Golden. surely?

Meh, I say that because—at least to my understanding—it’s regarded as a golden age of modern American history. That’s a notion that I’d rather contest, but whatever.

Anyways, going back to frivolous ASB scenarios, ‘WI All Planets In Our Solar Systems—Excluding Earth—Were Made Of Cheese’?

Mass death scenario as we all know we can not live on a planet made out of cheese.

[Zyobot]

Sept 6, 2019 16:22:15 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 6, 2019 15:49:33 GMT Zyobot said:

Meh, I say that because—at least to my understanding—it’s regarded as a golden age of modern American history. That’s a notion that I’d rather contest, but whatever.

Anyways, going back to frivolous ASB scenarios, ‘WI All Planets In Our Solar Systems—Excluding Earth—Were Made Of Cheese’?

Mass death scenario as we all know we can not live on a planet made out of cheese.

Right, but I’m talking about the other planets being made of cheese. Earth remains the same, life-supporting blue-green world that it is IOTL (the same goes for the Moon, too).

[lordroel]

Sept 6, 2019 18:13:25 GMT Zyobot said:

Sept 6, 2019 16:22:15 GMT lordroel said:

Mass death scenario as we all know we can not live on a planet made out of cheese.

Right, but I’m talking about the other planets being made of cheese. Earth remains the same, life-supporting blue-green world that it is IOTL (the same goes for the Moon, too).

Well if Earth and the Moon remain as they are and the other planets are made of cheese I wonder how cheese will reach to a environment like space, especially Venus who will melt away to its close position to the sun.

[Zyobot]

Sept 6, 2019 18:25:24 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 6, 2019 18:13:25 GMT Zyobot said:

Right, but I’m talking about the other planets being made of cheese. Earth remains the same, life-supporting blue-green world that it is IOTL (the same goes for the Moon, too).

Well if Earth and the Moon remain as they are and the other planets are made of cheese I wonder how cheese will reach to a environment like space, especially Venus who will melt away to its close position to the sun.

Good point. I wonder how cheesy planets and other celestial bodies much further away from the Sun--namely Pluto, which is classified as a dwarf planet, I know--would fare, temperature-wise.

[lordroel]

Sept 6, 2019 19:06:10 GMT Zyobot said:

Sept 6, 2019 18:25:24 GMT lordroel said:

Well if Earth and the Moon remain as they are and the other planets are made of cheese I wonder how cheese will reach to a environment like space, especially Venus who will melt away to its close position to the sun.

Good point. I wonder how cheesy planets and other celestial bodies much further away from the Sun--namely Pluto, which is classified as a dwarf planet, I know--would fare, temperature-wise.

Not found anything about the other planets in the Sol System but did find this:

Here's what would happen if the moon was actually made of cheese

[stevep]

Sept 6, 2019 15:49:33 GMT Zyobot said:

Sept 5, 2019 1:41:12 GMT mullauna said:

It's Fabulous Fifties, not Golden. surely?

Meh, I say that because—at least to my understanding—it’s regarded as a golden age of modern American history. That’s a notion that I’d rather contest, but whatever.

Anyways, going back to frivolous ASB scenarios, ‘WI All Planets In Our Solar Systems—Excluding Earth—Were Made Of Cheese’?

  Would you be keeping total mass the same or the initial size/diameter the same as that could make a difference.  A lot of the outer worlds are, including their atmosphere, less dense and Saturn famously is only about 75% the density of water.  As such if your keeping the volumes the same that's going to include their total masses which will affect planetary orbits.  If you keep mass the same they will be smaller and not sure what happens to cheese when crushed to the same pressure as inside the core of a planet!

  In terms of Mercury and Venus then their average temperatures are going to be well above the melting point of any cheese I know.  Also those planets are denser than water and probably than any cheese so their likely to be larger as a result if mass is maintained.  Suspect they would chemically decompose under that heat but not sure what the resultant chemical reactions would end up at.  Ditto with the deep freeze further out.

  Other effects aside it makes exploration of the solar system more boring and more difficult.  Imagine designing a probe, let alone a manned mission, that can land on and operate on cheese.  Also it does mean there's going to be a lot less hydrogen and other elements off Earth that could be useful for aiding setting up colonies and fueling expeditions.  At least we still have Luna as a staging place, once we get a proper base there.

  In terms of the 50's being the golden age for the US I think that's in part because of the timing.  Still basking in the glow of victory in WWII and being the richest and strongest economic state in the world by a large measure with an unmatched navy, great wealth for many, especially after the dark days of the 30's and being pretty much totally secure.  As long of course as you were a white male.   In the 60's the confidence, while boosted by the Apollo successes was increasingly be challenged.  The Soviets started developing not just bombers but also missiles that could reach the US.  Other nations, mostly W Europe and Japan began to challenge economic dominance.  Vietnam cast a shadow over both the US military and a number of social issues.  Also there were increasing challenges to the complacency with pressure for reform in terms of minority rights, women's rights, youth unrest and many other issues such as pollution, nuclear power, the influence of what Eisenhower called the military-industrial complex etc.

[lordroel]

Sept 7, 2019 9:46:33 GMT stevep said:

  Other effects aside it makes exploration of the solar system more boring and more difficult.  Imagine designing a probe, let alone a manned mission, that can land on and operate on cheese.

The Netherlands will take that challenge gladly, after all we are a chess country and being the First Nation to land on a cheese planet is a challenge we gladly accept.

[Zyobot]

Sept 7, 2019 10:13:12 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 7, 2019 9:46:33 GMT stevep said:

  Other effects aside it makes exploration of the solar system more boring and more difficult.  Imagine designing a probe, let alone a manned mission, that can land on and operate on cheese.

The Netherlands will take that challenge gladly, after all we are a chess country and being the First Nation to land on a cheese planet is a challenge we gladly accept.

Best of luck with that, Lordroel. That said, there are other countries (i.e. the US) that could easily compete with the Netherlands in terms of landing on a cheese world. But I digress.

Anyways, another frivolous ASB idea might be '1950 American Troops Envision Modern South Korea'. I mean, they're already on track to keeping the Korean peninsula free of communism as it stands, so maybe there's not much of a point to giving them that foresight on top of that. Although, maybe it'd inspire NATO to fight differently since they'll become aware of the DPRK existing alongside its liberal-democratic counterpart in the south. Plus, they might also get glimpses of other OTL-future developments several decades early (i.e. science and technology).

[Zyobot]

'ASB Reveals All That Goes On Behind Closed Doors'. Everything ranging from what happens in the newsrooms of large media outlets, to the secretive discussion at the Bilderberg Group, to the likely suspicious activities of the global intelligence community, would wind up disclosed and made publicly available to the masses, probably via the internet.

[lordroel]

Sept 9, 2019 0:40:03 GMT Zyobot said:

'ASB Reveals All That Goes On Behind Closed Doors'. Everything ranging from what happens in the newsrooms of large media outlets, to the secretive discussion at the Bilderberg Group, to the likely suspicious activities of the global intelligence community, would wind up disclosed and made publicly available to the masses, probably via the internet.

Do we want to know in some cases what is going on behind closed doors.

[Zyobot]

Sept 9, 2019 5:50:01 GMT lordroel said:

Sept 9, 2019 0:40:03 GMT Zyobot said:

'ASB Reveals All That Goes On Behind Closed Doors'. Everything ranging from what happens in the newsrooms of large media outlets, to the secretive discussion at the Bilderberg Group, to the likely suspicious activities of the global intelligence community, would wind up disclosed and made publicly available to the masses, probably via the internet.

Do we want to know in some cases what is going on behind closed doors.

Good point. Statistically speaking, there are bound to be those secrets that are too disturbing and/or plain destabilizing for the general public to know about.

Obviously, I can’t tell you precisely what these powerful people and groups are actually hiding from us (because they’re hiding it from us), but I don’t think we’d like what we’d learn of if it were suddenly revealed to us.

[stevep]

Sept 9, 2019 0:40:03 GMT Zyobot said:

'ASB Reveals All That Goes On Behind Closed Doors'. Everything ranging from what happens in the newsrooms of large media outlets, to the secretive discussion at the Bilderberg Group, to the likely suspicious activities of the global intelligence community, would wind up disclosed and made publicly available to the masses, probably via the internet.

  Is that only affecting large organisations and very powerful people or would it include every individual?  Also is it just at a set date or would this be ongoing into the future?  Presuming also that automatic translation occurs so that say we're also aware of what Russia, China, Iran etc are getting up to and vice versa without needing to go through a possibly not totally independent and unbias translator.

  One other factor, especially if it includes everything on everybody is that it probably breaks the internet due to the sheer volume involved.  Even before various interested parties seek to do that or find other ways to keep their secrets secret.

[Zyobot]

'AANW World Reacts To OTL'.

[lordroel]

Sept 22, 2019 19:43:09 GMT Zyobot said:

'AANW World Reacts To OTL'.

Never understood that universe.