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Post by kyuzoaoi on Aug 3, 2022 5:51:46 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ConstabularyWhat if the United States, for some reason in the 20th century, and with a POD of 1946, decided to not only expand the United States Constabulary in Germany, but also decided, due to bullying of the US Congress into acceptance (McCarthy conceded realizing it could be useful in anti-Communist activities), make it a permanent institution in America itself, turn it into a military force but akin to the Coast Guard? They also took inspiration to their own creation in the Philippines: the Philippine Constabulary. Imagine Constabularymen doing the policing in the Civil Rights movement, guarding the nuclear missile silos, policing the remaining US territories who do not have their own police forces as well US personnel in Antarctica, counterinsurgency in Vietnam and Iraq, doing the bulk of UN peacekeeping, fighting the militia movement, suppressing riots, and in the case of January 6, 2021, forcibly counter-storming the Capitol with full battlegear with some moderate casualties on Constabulary side and heavy casualties on the other. Naturally, this won't endear them to anybody.
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Post by simon darkshade on Aug 3, 2022 7:27:00 GMT
No, can't be done.
This scenario completely changes what they were for; injects 180 degree different views on real people; and handwaves away constitutional, institutional and practical limitations.
The USC was a very, very brief example of what the most well intentioned of WW2 US liberal thinkers thought the postwar world would need. The Four Policemen would need police, after all. That raison d'etre was born dead, though, with the basis of the Cold War starting even as WW2 was still going.
It was useful for occupation duty in Germany, which was seen as a dangerous enemy that needed to be remodelled. When the threat shifted from resurgent Nazism to the Red Army, a lightly armed Constabulary dies in the dust as an idea. There is no basis for it to be perpetuated, as it is literally a fish out of water.
A US military force doing policing runs into all sorts of Constitutional issues that cannot be blithely ignored. After that, your panoply of assorted missions becomes even more random, just as they are utterly unsuited to it.
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Post by michelvan on Aug 4, 2022 9:48:02 GMT
The United States Constabulary was a gendarmerie force (mean Military has to make civilian police duty under Military command) To keep law and Order in US occupy areas of west Germany, west Berlin and Austria. That was necessary since those areas had no police force or jurisdiction and some time were germans vigilante group with self-administered justice, active on there own. Not only was shift in Cold War from Nazi to Communism is my enemy, what ende the US Constabulary. In 1952 the Germans and Austrians had organised them self to build up a new Police Force and working Justice system. This made US Constabulary obsolete To make it a permanent institution in America itself, it need major changes in US politic and constitutional, since their Military Police Force ! Mean Military has to make civilian police duty under Military command and jurisdiction, not Police Force with Department of Justice !! That goes fundamental against the US Constitutions and laws This is like Judge Dredd Fargo and the Instant Justice Law Initiative...
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