Re-run - a 20 year old ISOT scenario of mine:North America ISOT 1791-1891

[stevep]

   Good point about non-migrants often staying in their own countries but moving to cities.  That's likely to speed up industrialization and also mean a lot of workers for radicalization given they will have pretty dire conditions and easier contact with large numbers of other people in the same position.  Likely to see a lot of social unrest which could see fairly homogeneous states especially becoming more 'liberal' and more heterogeneous ones could get quite nasty as there might be a lot of national/political division.  This could be especially bad in Austria Hungary and possibly to a lesser degree in Russia.  Might also see unrest in the UK as it had settled a lot of incoming migrants and was the established point of departure to elsewhere so you could see a fair number more still trying to come.

[raharris1973]

Here is a global map of the 1891 situation, with 1791 North America situation. Where regional data disagrees with more focused maps, like the Africa map earlier on, I would assume the more focused map is more accurate.
www.flickr.com/photos/22187058@N03/53931237202/in/photostream/lightbox/

[stevep]

Aug 19, 2024 1:43:42 GMT raharris1973 said:

Here is a global map of the 1891 situation, with 1791 North America situation. Where regional data disagrees with more focused maps, like the Africa map earlier on, I would assume the more focused map is more accurate.
www.flickr.com/photos/22187058@N03/53931237202/in/photostream/lightbox/

  For 1791 Spanish lands in N America are those claims rather than actual control as I think their 'feet on the ground' were pretty few in a lot of the northern areas?

[raharris1973]

Aug 19, 2024 16:59:59 GMT stevep said:

Aug 19, 2024 1:43:42 GMT raharris1973 said:

Here is a global map of the 1891 situation, with 1791 North America situation. Where regional data disagrees with more focused maps, like the Africa map earlier on, I would assume the more focused map is more accurate.
www.flickr.com/photos/22187058@N03/53931237202/in/photostream/lightbox/

  For 1791 Spanish lands in N America are those claims rather than actual control as I think their 'feet on the ground' were pretty few in a lot of the northern areas?

Definitely just claims, with the most tenuous, least settled in North America being the Nutca/Nootka/Oregon territory. Also some northern parts of New Mexico, and the interior of big ol Luisiana was always only lightly occupied.