Soviet/NATO invasion and nuclear targets across the world thread

[gillan1220]

I gathered some possible targets for Soviet missiles bound towards Japan during an early 1980s setting. This is based on 1983: Doomsday and Protect and Survive.

• Aomori
  
• Fukuoka-Kitakyushu corridor
  
• Greater Tokyo Bay Area (Tokyo Metropolis, Saitama Prefecture, Chiba Prefecture, Yokosuka Naval Base)
• Hakodate
• Hamamatsu AB
  
• Iwakuni
• Kagoshima
  
• Kawasaki
• Kobe
• Komatsu AB
  
• Kumamoto
  
• Kure Naval Yard
• Kyoto
• Maizuru
• Misawa AB
• Morioka
  
• Muroran
• Nagano
• Nagasaki
• Nagoya
• Niigata
• Okinawa (Naha, USMC bases, Kadena AB)
• Okayama
  
• Osaka
• Sasebo
• Sapporo
• Sendai
• Shimonoseiki
  
• Shizuoka
  
• Shunan
• Toyama
  
• Tsuraga
• Yokohama
• Yokota AB

Based on these target lists, the USSR's strategy is to destroy major cities to decapitate the leadership and possible relocation sites, industrial and economic centers, both US and JSDF military bases, civilian airports, and civilian seaports since these offer the ability for retaliation. The more this would be done since Japan is pointed like a dagger towards the Soviet Far East.

[lordroel]

Aug 9, 2020 7:47:49 GMT gillan1220 said:

I gathered some possible targets for Soviet missiles bound towards Japan during an early 1980s setting. This is based on 1983: Doomsday and Protect and Survive.

• Aomori
  
• Fukuoka-Kitakyushu corridor
  
• Greater Tokyo Bay Area (Tokyo Metropolis, Saitama Prefecture, Chiba Prefecture, Yokosuka Naval Base)
• Hakodate
• Hamamatsu AB
  
• Iwakuni
• Kagoshima
  
• Kawasaki
• Kobe
• Komatsu AB
  
• Kumamoto
  
• Kure Naval Yard
• Kyoto
• Maizuru
• Misawa AB
• Morioka
  
• Muroran
• Nagano
• Nagasaki
• Nagoya
• Niigata
• Okinawa (Naha, USMC bases, Kadena AB)
• Okayama
  
• Osaka
• Sasebo
• Sapporo
• Sendai
• Shimonoseiki
  
• Shizuoka
  
• Shunan
• Toyama
  
• Tsuraga
• Yokohama
• Yokota AB

Based on these target lists, the USSR's strategy is to destroy major cities to decapitate the leadership and possible relocation sites, industrial and economic centers, both US and JSDF military bases, civilian airports, and civilian seaports since these offer the ability for retaliation. The more this would be done since Japan is pointed like a dagger towards the Soviet Far East.

That is a good target list gillan1220, i would asume there are more that we do not know about.

[gillan1220]

Aug 9, 2020 7:56:05 GMT lordroel said:

Aug 9, 2020 7:47:49 GMT gillan1220 said:

I gathered some possible targets for Soviet missiles bound towards Japan during an early 1980s setting. This is based on 1983: Doomsday and Protect and Survive.

• Aomori
  
• Fukuoka-Kitakyushu corridor
  
• Greater Tokyo Bay Area (Tokyo Metropolis, Saitama Prefecture, Chiba Prefecture, Yokosuka Naval Base)
• Hakodate
• Hamamatsu AB
  
• Iwakuni
• Kagoshima
  
• Kawasaki
• Kobe
• Komatsu AB
  
• Kumamoto
  
• Kure Naval Yard
• Kyoto
• Maizuru
• Misawa AB
• Morioka
  
• Muroran
• Nagano
• Nagasaki
• Nagoya
• Niigata
• Okinawa (Naha, USMC bases, Kadena AB)
• Okayama
  
• Osaka
• Sasebo
• Sapporo
• Sendai
• Shimonoseiki
  
• Shizuoka
  
• Shunan
• Toyama
  
• Tsuraga
• Yokohama
• Yokota AB

Based on these target lists, the USSR's strategy is to destroy major cities to decapitate the leadership and possible relocation sites, industrial and economic centers, both US and JSDF military bases, civilian airports, and civilian seaports since these offer the ability for retaliation. The more this would be done since Japan is pointed like a dagger towards the Soviet Far East.

That is a good target list gillan1220 , i would asume there are more that we do not know about.

The military bases and major industrial centers are given target list. Japan would have suffered far worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

[lordroel]

Aug 9, 2020 8:02:01 GMT gillan1220 said:

Aug 9, 2020 7:56:05 GMT lordroel said:

That is a good target list gillan1220 , i would asume there are more that we do not know about.

The military bases and major industrial centers are given target list. Japan would have suffered far worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

Every country that would have been targeted would have suffered badly.

[gillan1220]

Aug 9, 2020 8:05:48 GMT lordroel said:

Aug 9, 2020 8:02:01 GMT gillan1220 said:

The military bases and major industrial centers are given target list. Japan would have suffered far worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

Every country that would have been targeted would have suffered badly.

Here's a map of possible targets in Japan from the scenario of 1983: Doomsday.

[gillan1220]

The Soviets would also try to sever the GIUK gap as it their only access to the North Atlantic.

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[stevep]

   That's why so many WWIII novels have the Soviets seeking to seize Iceland to weaken the barrier as well as it becoming an air base for them.  There is another way, especially since just about everybody hoped/expected such a conflict to be short, by getting as many subs as possible pass the gap and into the Atlantic before fighting started.  However of course such a sub surge was something NATO looked out for and would take as a prominent warning sign of a probable attack.

[gillan1220]

Aug 11, 2020 9:08:55 GMT stevep said:

   That's why so many WWIII novels have the Soviets seeking to seize Iceland to weaken the barrier as well as it becoming an air base for them.  There is another way, especially since just about everybody hoped/expected such a conflict to be short, by getting as many subs as possible pass the gap and into the Atlantic before fighting started.  However of course such a sub surge was something NATO looked out for and would take as a prominent warning sign of a probable attack.

I remember in World in Conflict (2007), it was mentioned the Soviets took over Iceland and the U.S. Marines were launching an amphibious assault to retake it for NATO.

[gillan1220]

Targets in the ROK in 1983: Doomsday.

Targets in the Korean Peninsula
Republic of Korea:

• Busan
• Daegu (includes USAG Daegu)
• Camp Red Cloud
• Chinhae (nearby U.S. naval base Commander Fleet Activities Chinhae)
• Gangneung AB
• Gunsan
• Gwangju
• Incheon
• Jungwon AB
• Kunsan AB
• Seosan AB (Seosan)
• Seoul (includes Yongsan Garrison)
• Pyeongtaek (Camp Humphreys)
• Osan AB
• Wonju
• Yeocheon AB

There are some smaller U.S. Army camps located in South Korea but these do not really offer anything of significance aside from support that would be considered marginal. Hence I deduced the Soviets would not waste a nuke on it.

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

• Pyongyang
• Misc. artillery, AA, air bases, and naval bases

[gillan1220]

Guam is definitely going down in smokes. Houses B-52s and B-1 Lancers as well as the U.S. Navy's Ohio-class SSBNs. 
An OP from Guam had this to say for a separate Terminator thread:

For a TERMINATOR thread I mentioned three tac-nukes would do the job: Anderson AFB on the north side of the island (takes out all aircraft, runways, fuel and support facilities), one on the Naval Base on the south side of the island (takes out the base, support facilities and any ships there) and one on the International Airport @ Agana (takes out all aircraft, runways, fuel and support facilities plus the Naval Air Station is there as well). Any private aircraft can't get outside the Marianas and most privately-owned ships would have difficulty making it to Hawaii or the Philippines, much less any further...

Source: basenation.us

[gillan1220]

The DEW Line in the Arctic Circle would also be targeted no doubt.

[lordroel]

Aug 15, 2020 13:02:24 GMT gillan1220 said:

The DEW Line in the Arctic Circle would also be targeted no doubt.

Is there anything to target then.

[gillan1220]

Aug 15, 2020 13:26:30 GMT lordroel said:

Aug 15, 2020 13:02:24 GMT gillan1220 said:

The DEW Line in the Arctic Circle would also be targeted no doubt.

Is there anything to target then.

Targeting the DEW Line would remove America and Canada's first-line of ABM nuclear defense.

[gillan1220]

Probable targets in the People's Republic of China.

The first one is from 1983: Doomsday:

- Beijing
- Changchun
- Chengdu
- Chongqing
- Dalian (Port Arthur)
- Dinghai
- Fuzhou
- Ganzhou
- Guangzhou
- Guiyang
- Harbin
- Jinan
- Lanzhou
- Lhasa
- Nanjing
- Nanning
- Qingdao
- Shanghai
- Shenyang
- Shenzhen
- Tianjin
- Wuhan
- Xi'an
- Zhanjiang
- Zhengzhou

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This from Ashes of the Dragon: A Protect and Survive Tale in the other forum, written by user General_Paul

INCOMPLETE TARGET LIST: OCTOBER 1, 1983

Urban/Civilian Targets:
BEIJING AND HEBEI PROVINCE:
1) Beijing: Capital city of the People's Republic of China. Location of the People's Congress, Politburo, Ministry of Defense, and headquarters of the Beijing Military Region(People's Liberation Army/PLA). Largest city by population in Mainland China.
2) Shijiazhuang: Capital of Hebei Province. Steel and heavy industry. Secondary rail hub for northern China.

MANCHURIA AND NORTHERN PROVINCES OF HEILIONGJIANG, JILIN, LIAONING, AND SHANDONG PROVINCES:
3) Shenyang: Heavy Industrial hub for defense, railroad and transportation hub. Headquarters of Shenyang Military Region(PLA).
4) Changchun: Heavy industry. Headquarters of the 16th Group Army.
5) Meihekou: Headquarters, 4th Armored Division.
6) Jinzhou: Headquarters 39th and 40th Group Armies.
SHANDONG PROVINCE
7) Qingdao: Industrial city, main shipyards for the People's Liberation Army-Navy, main port for the PLA-N, sub-headquarters for Northern Theater Command attached to Shenyang.
8) Tianjin: Shipyards and dry docks for the PLA-N. Newly established Special Economic Zone (SEZ) for foreign investment.
9) Ji'nan: Sub-provincial transport hub for Shandong Province.
SHANGHAI, JIANGSU, ANHUI, ZHEJIANG, JIANGXI, AND FUJIAN PROVINCES
10) Shanghai: Second largest city of the People's Republic of China. Industrial hub for central China. Hub for foreign investment outside of the SEZ's. Shipbuilding and dry docks for commercial fleet, PLA-N.
11) Nanjing: Headquarters for the Nanjing Military Region covering central China. Light industry, textiles, and transportation hub. Capital of Jiangsu Province.
12) Hefei: Capital of Anhui Province. Transportation hub for Anhui, Hubei, and Jiangxi Provinces.
13) Ningbo: Sub-provincial city. Port of Ningbo services the PLA-N on its East China Sea deployments.
14) Fuzhou: Capital of Fujian Province. Large port that services the PLA-N
15) Nanchang: Capital of Jiangxi Province. Developing industrial center. Provincial transportation hub for Jiangxi Province.
GUANGDONG, GUANGXI, HUNAN, and HUBEI PROVINCES
16) Guangzhou: Largest city in southern China. Headquarters for the Guangzhou Military Region. Center of industry for south China, including steel, car manufacturing, aircraft, and other defense-related industries.
17) Shenzhen: Center of foreign investment and first Special Economic Zone established.
18) Nanning: Capital of Guangxi Autonomous Region. Transportation hub for Guangxi AR.
19) Haikou: Capital of Hainan Special Administrative District (Guangdong Province).
20) Wuhan: Headquarters for the Wuhan Military Region.
21) Changsha: Capital of Hunan Province. Regional transportation hub.

[stevep]

Aug 16, 2020 3:23:37 GMT gillan1220 said:

Probable targets in the People's Republic of China.

The first one is from 1983: Doomsday:

- Beijing
- Changchun
- Chengdu
- Chongqing
- Dalian (Port Arthur)
- Dinghai
- Fuzhou
- Ganzhou
- Guangzhou
- Guiyang
- Harbin
- Jinan
- Lanzhou
- Lhasa
- Nanjing
- Nanning
- Qingdao
- Shanghai
- Shenyang
- Shenzhen
- Tianjin
- Wuhan
- Xi'an
- Zhanjiang
- Zhengzhou

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This from Ashes of the Dragon: A Protect and Survive Tale in the other forum, written by user General_Paul

INCOMPLETE TARGET LIST: OCTOBER 1, 1983

Urban/Civilian Targets:
BEIJING AND HEBEI PROVINCE:
1) Beijing: Capital city of the People's Republic of China. Location of the People's Congress, Politburo, Ministry of Defense, and headquarters of the Beijing Military Region(People's Liberation Army/PLA). Largest city by population in Mainland China.
2) Shijiazhuang: Capital of Hebei Province. Steel and heavy industry. Secondary rail hub for northern China.

MANCHURIA AND NORTHERN PROVINCES OF HEILIONGJIANG, JILIN, LIAONING, AND SHANDONG PROVINCES:
3) Shenyang: Heavy Industrial hub for defense, railroad and transportation hub. Headquarters of Shenyang Military Region(PLA).
4) Changchun: Heavy industry. Headquarters of the 16th Group Army.
5) Meihekou: Headquarters, 4th Armored Division.
6) Jinzhou: Headquarters 39th and 40th Group Armies.
SHANDONG PROVINCE
7) Qingdao: Industrial city, main shipyards for the People's Liberation Army-Navy, main port for the PLA-N, sub-headquarters for Northern Theater Command attached to Shenyang.
8) Tianjin: Shipyards and dry docks for the PLA-N. Newly established Special Economic Zone (SEZ) for foreign investment.
9) Ji'nan: Sub-provincial transport hub for Shandong Province.
SHANGHAI, JIANGSU, ANHUI, ZHEJIANG, JIANGXI, AND FUJIAN PROVINCES
10) Shanghai: Second largest city of the People's Republic of China. Industrial hub for central China. Hub for foreign investment outside of the SEZ's. Shipbuilding and dry docks for commercial fleet, PLA-N.
11) Nanjing: Headquarters for the Nanjing Military Region covering central China. Light industry, textiles, and transportation hub. Capital of Jiangsu Province.
12) Hefei: Capital of Anhui Province. Transportation hub for Anhui, Hubei, and Jiangxi Provinces.
13) Ningbo: Sub-provincial city. Port of Ningbo services the PLA-N on its East China Sea deployments.
14) Fuzhou: Capital of Fujian Province. Large port that services the PLA-N
15) Nanchang: Capital of Jiangxi Province. Developing industrial center. Provincial transportation hub for Jiangxi Province.
GUANGDONG, GUANGXI, HUNAN, and HUBEI PROVINCES
16) Guangzhou: Largest city in southern China. Headquarters for the Guangzhou Military Region. Center of industry for south China, including steel, car manufacturing, aircraft, and other defense-related industries.
17) Shenzhen: Center of foreign investment and first Special Economic Zone established.
18) Nanning: Capital of Guangxi Autonomous Region. Transportation hub for Guangxi AR.
19) Haikou: Capital of Hainan Special Administrative District (Guangdong Province).
20) Wuhan: Headquarters for the Wuhan Military Region.
21) Changsha: Capital of Hunan Province. Regional transportation hub.

  A bit surprised that Lhasa is on the list as I didn't think the Chinese had that much of a military presence there other that what was needed to keep the Tibetans suppressed.  Might you I think by some measures Tibet is majority Han Chinese due to encourgement of them to settle there.

  Suspect there is a hell of a lot more targets in China now, for both the US and Russia I expect given how much its economical and technological as well as military strength has expanded since 83.