Real time Discusion thread

[lordroel]

Dec 10, 2019 13:34:27 GMT stevep said:

lordroel ,

  On the WWI thread you have:

With reinforcements from X and XXI Corps, the Russian 3rd Army assaults the centre of the Austro-Hungarian 4th Army, and succeeds in pushing the enemy lines back several milometres

 

Suspect you mean either miles or kilometers?  Otherwise millimeters would be a very limited advance indeed.

  Steve

Well we are talking about the Austro-Hungarian army, but I will edit it.

[lordroel]

I am happy to post the official banner for Gulf War 1991 - Operation Desert Storm in real time which is planned to start on January 16th 2020.

[stevep]

lordroel ,

  On the WWII thread you have:

While the Greeks are still making progress in Albania, the weather is horrible and there aren't any towns to mark their progress. Greek Commander-in-chief Papagos knows that the real prize is Valona, the key Italian supply port, and without that, the Italian ability to strike back after it builds up reinforcements and supplies remains intact. Valona, however, remains well-defended by the Greeks, who, by and large, have occupied a lot of worthless mountain goat territory and only a few significant towns. The Greeks are approaching Himara on the left of the line.

  I suspect this bit has been telescoped together as to my understanding the Italians are defending Valona while the Greeks have occupied largely unoccupied mountainous regions of little strategic value.

  Otherwise looking good.

  Steve

[lordroel]

Dec 11, 2019 19:26:01 GMT stevep said:

lordroel ,

  On the WWII thread you have:

While the Greeks are still making progress in Albania, the weather is horrible and there aren't any towns to mark their progress. Greek Commander-in-chief Papagos knows that the real prize is Valona, the key Italian supply port, and without that, the Italian ability to strike back after it builds up reinforcements and supplies remains intact. Valona, however, remains well-defended by the Greeks, who, by and large, have occupied a lot of worthless mountain goat territory and only a few significant towns. The Greeks are approaching Himara on the left of the line.

  I suspect this bit has been telescoped together as to my understanding the Italians are defending Valona while the Greeks have occupied largely unoccupied mountainous regions of little strategic value.

  Otherwise looking good.

  Steve

Thanks for the spotting as always stevep, will fix it.

[stevep]

lordroel ,

  On the WWI thread:

Naval operations: Admiral Ingenohlis getting concerned about the morale of his sailors

For the past month and a half the German High Seas Fleet has sat in port, immobilized by the Kaiser's edict that his prized dreadnoughts are not to risk annihilation in a major battle with the British Grand Fleet. The inaction is concerning to Admiral Ingenohl, commander of the High Seas Fleet, who worries about the morale of his sailors, while Admiral Hipper, commanding the Fleet's battlecruisers, is eager to undertake another attack on the British coast along the lines of that attempted against Yarmouth on November 3rd. ......

Since the Yarmouth raid of November 3rd, Admiral Hipper, commander of the battlecruisers of the German High Seas Fleet, has been eager to undertake another sortie against the British coast. Admiral Ingenohl, meanwhile, as overall commander of the High Seas Fleet is increasingly concerned about the morale of his sailors, given they have spent almost the entire war in port due to the Kaiser's edict forbidding the fleet from seeking out a major naval battle with the British.

  The last paragraph is really a copy of the earlier part, see above, so might be best removing it.

  Steve

[lordroel]

Dec 14, 2019 11:34:25 GMT stevep said:

lordroel ,

  On the WWI thread:

Naval operations: Admiral Ingenohlis getting concerned about the morale of his sailors

For the past month and a half the German High Seas Fleet has sat in port, immobilized by the Kaiser's edict that his prized dreadnoughts are not to risk annihilation in a major battle with the British Grand Fleet. The inaction is concerning to Admiral Ingenohl, commander of the High Seas Fleet, who worries about the morale of his sailors, while Admiral Hipper, commanding the Fleet's battlecruisers, is eager to undertake another attack on the British coast along the lines of that attempted against Yarmouth on November 3rd. ......

Since the Yarmouth raid of November 3rd, Admiral Hipper, commander of the battlecruisers of the German High Seas Fleet, has been eager to undertake another sortie against the British coast. Admiral Ingenohl, meanwhile, as overall commander of the High Seas Fleet is increasingly concerned about the morale of his sailors, given they have spent almost the entire war in port due to the Kaiser's edict forbidding the fleet from seeking out a major naval battle with the British.

  The last paragraph is really a copy of the earlier part, see above, so might be best removing it.

  Steve

Thanks, will be done.

[stevep]

lordroel ,

  A couple of points with today's WWII post.

a)  You have

Convoy MG 1 departs Malta bound for Malta, escorted by battleship HMS Malaya and eight destroyers. Several empty merchant ships which have been waiting there for the opportunity finally get away from Malta in this convoy.

 

b)  Also you have two entries for the bombing of Liverpool, one under "Air War in Europe" and one under "Battle of the Atlantic" that have a large amount of overlap.  Although the latter one does have more details on the ships lost/damaged so possibly two separate entries are merited?

  Steve

[lordroel]

Dec 21, 2019 12:24:23 GMT stevep said:

lordroel ,

  A couple of points with today's WWII post.

a)  You have

Convoy MG 1 departs Malta bound for Malta, escorted by battleship HMS Malaya and eight destroyers. Several empty merchant ships which have been waiting there for the opportunity finally get away from Malta in this convoy.

 

b)  Also you have two entries for the bombing of Liverpool, one under "Air War in Europe" and one under "Battle of the Atlantic" that have a large amount of overlap.  Although the latter one does have more details on the ships lost/damaged so possibly two separate entries are merited?

  Steve

Will fix it, thanks.

[stevep]

lordroel ,

  One thing with the WWII update today.  HMS Renown at ~30,000 tons and with 6x15" guns is definitely a battlecruiser rather than an heavy cruiser - which at this time is reserved for ships of about 7-12,000 ton with 8" guns. 

  Steve

[lordroel]

Dec 30, 2019 11:43:58 GMT stevep said:

lordroel ,

  One thing with the WWII update today.  HMS Renown at ~30,000 tons and with 6x15" guns is definitely a battlecruiser rather than an heavy cruiser - which at this time is reserved for ships of about 7-12,000 ton with 8" guns. 

  Steve

Will fix it, thanks for the notice.

[stevep]

   lordroel ,

   On today's WWII you have a mention of Soviet exercises in preparation for a German invasion you have "The exercises are to begin on January 2nd 1940".  Guessing this should be 1941.

 

  Steve

[stevep]

   lordroel ,

   On yesterday's WWII post a couple of points I noticed. - Wasn't up when I 1st checked the site because you were waiting for the Youtube video and I didn't get around to checking later, sorry.

a)  In reporting the Luftwaffe attacks on HMS Southampton you initially refer to her as an heavy cruiser, then in the next paragraph as a light cruiser.  Checking on Wiki HMS_Southampton, the ship was one of those that kind of fitted both categories, weighting nearly 10,000 tons but being armed with 6" rather than 8" guns.  However due to their guns their normally classified as light rather than heavy cruisers.

b)  Technically the Kerguelen Islands are in the Indian Ocean [or south of it in the Antarctic Ocean depending on the boundaries] rather than the Pacific.  Only a small quibble but since I'm mentioning the other point.

  Steve

[lordroel]

Jan 12, 2020 13:25:07 GMT stevep said:

   lordroel ,

   On yesterday's WWII post a couple of points I noticed. - Wasn't up when I 1st checked the site because you were waiting for the Youtube video and I didn't get around to checking later, sorry.

a)  In reporting the Luftwaffe attacks on HMS Southampton you initially refer to her as an heavy cruiser, then in the next paragraph as a light cruiser.  Checking on Wiki HMS_Southampton, the ship was one of those that kind of fitted both categories, weighting nearly 10,000 tons but being armed with 6" rather than 8" guns.  However due to their guns their normally classified as light rather than heavy cruisers.

b)  Technically the Kerguelen Islands are in the Indian Ocean [or south of it in the Antarctic Ocean depending on the boundaries] rather than the Pacific.  Only a small quibble but since I'm mentioning the other point.

  Steve

Thanks, will change HMS Southampton, into a heavy cruiser.

[lordroel]

So with the Gulf War 1991 - Operation Desert Storm in real time to start soon, we need of course some new small real time wars, the one currently being worked on is the:

Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896.

I hoop to get other smaller wars in real time posted this year as well.

[stevep]

Jan 14, 2020 15:13:12 GMT lordroel said:

So with the Gulf War 1991 - Operation Desert Storm in real time to start soon, we need of course some new small real time wars, the one currently being worked on is the:

Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896.

I hoop to get other smaller wars in real time posted this year as well.

  Isn't that the war that lasted about 30 minutes?  Not going to be a lot to cover there. See Anglo-Zanzibar_War for a bit more detail.

  I have been thinking would it be worthwhile, as the number grows that completed day by day threads that completed ones be relocated to a sub-folder under the main one.  Otherwise the list of completed threads stuck to the top of the this one is going to get longer and longer.  Any currently active non-sticky threads could end up a page or two down shortly.  Noticed I'm sometimes missed new posts in such threads because their some way below the window my browser gives and have to remember to scroll down.