Denmark of 9 April 1940 ISOT to 1 February 1864.

[lordroel]

Feb 12, 2023 9:51:56 GMT 575 said:

Copenhagen 9 April 1940 06 AM
Social-Demokraten (Union Newspaper) headline:
”Strange events during the night – German Navy ships disappeared”

Berlingske Tidende (Conservative Newspaper) headline:
”Swedish sailing ship from Hälsingborg tell of no Railway station at Ferry Port”

Politiken (Social Liberal Newspaper) headline:
”Aurora borealis visible all over the country last night”

Land og Folk (Communist Newspaper) headline:
”Warship Niels Juel mobilized yesterday”

(OTL prior to Radio and the Internet news went off at 06 AM by the morning paper – then a late morning paper around 10 AM and then evening news around 3-4 PM; journalist's would wait out the night till 02 AM at the editors desk for late news to be able to fit them into the morning paper printing fra 02 – 04 AM; important news outside regular issues could be spread by flyers/leaflets)


Copenhagen 9 April 1940 08 AM
General Prior, Army Commander, and Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer, Navy Commander waited for their political head Minister of Defence Alsing-Andersen to arrive at Ministry of Defence.
The Commanders had already exchanged information about the situation and occasionally an Army or Navy Aide would show up with new signals.
A batch of Newspapers lay on the table separating their comfy chairs.

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer pointed at the Newspapers: ”If they knew it all it would be a sensation.”

General Prior: ”At least it already made headlines even if they don't have the full picture.”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”Do our Political Masters?”

General Prior: ”He-he.. Vice-Admiral.. please.. I didn't think of You as a joker.”

At 0810 AM Minister Alsing-Andersen arrived looking at the officers asking them to follow him into his Office and then sitting down saying ”so no hostilities initiated by Germany then?”

The General and Admiral looked at each other then General Prior said ”no not the 1940 Germany but it seems we are on the doorstep of war with Prussia and Austria of 1864.”

Alsing-Andersen: ”General I don't know You to be joking.”

General Prior: ”I'm not – let me and the Vice-Admiral” looking at Rechnitzer with a broad smile ”read You a number of Signals that have been received at Army and Navy Commands I assume You are already familiar with the major Newspaper headlines.”

Following several readings.. and lots of discussion on whats happening.

Alsing-Andersen: ”General, Vice-Admiral I really feel we ought to go to the Primeminister – if You wait I'll just have my Aide call his office stating our soon arrival.”

So the population are aware that something has happen, where news papers common in 1940 not only in the major cities but also the towns.

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Feb 12, 2023 10:03:08 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 12, 2023 9:51:56 GMT 575 said:

Copenhagen 9 April 1940 06 AM
Social-Demokraten (Union Newspaper) headline:
”Strange events during the night – German Navy ships disappeared”

Berlingske Tidende (Conservative Newspaper) headline:
”Swedish sailing ship from Hälsingborg tell of no Railway station at Ferry Port”

Politiken (Social Liberal Newspaper) headline:
”Aurora borealis visible all over the country last night”

Land og Folk (Communist Newspaper) headline:
”Warship Niels Juel mobilized yesterday”

(OTL prior to Radio and the Internet news went off at 06 AM by the morning paper – then a late morning paper around 10 AM and then evening news around 3-4 PM; journalist's would wait out the night till 02 AM at the editors desk for late news to be able to fit them into the morning paper printing fra 02 – 04 AM; important news outside regular issues could be spread by flyers/leaflets)


Copenhagen 9 April 1940 08 AM
General Prior, Army Commander, and Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer, Navy Commander waited for their political head Minister of Defence Alsing-Andersen to arrive at Ministry of Defence.
The Commanders had already exchanged information about the situation and occasionally an Army or Navy Aide would show up with new signals.
A batch of Newspapers lay on the table separating their comfy chairs.

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer pointed at the Newspapers: ”If they knew it all it would be a sensation.”

General Prior: ”At least it already made headlines even if they don't have the full picture.”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”Do our Political Masters?”

General Prior: ”He-he.. Vice-Admiral.. please.. I didn't think of You as a joker.”

At 0810 AM Minister Alsing-Andersen arrived looking at the officers asking them to follow him into his Office and then sitting down saying ”so no hostilities initiated by Germany then?”

The General and Admiral looked at each other then General Prior said ”no not the 1940 Germany but it seems we are on the doorstep of war with Prussia and Austria of 1864.”

Alsing-Andersen: ”General I don't know You to be joking.”

General Prior: ”I'm not – let me and the Vice-Admiral” looking at Rechnitzer with a broad smile ”read You a number of Signals that have been received at Army and Navy Commands I assume You are already familiar with the major Newspaper headlines.”

Following several readings.. and lots of discussion on whats happening.

Alsing-Andersen: ”General, Vice-Admiral I really feel we ought to go to the Primeminister – if You wait I'll just have my Aide call his office stating our soon arrival.”

So the population are aware that something has happen, where news papers common in 1940 not only in the major cities but also the towns.

Very common - the major printers were at Copenhagen but the printed papers were sent by train to the various Towns and Cities from stop press at 04 AM.

The Provincial Towns also had their own papers but regarding major news these could be a day behind.

The very popular Danish TV-series "Matador" which depicts life in a povincial Town/City from the 1920's to the end of WWII shows also the Newspapers both local and country-wide ones.

[575]

Feb 12, 2023 10:03:08 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 12, 2023 9:51:56 GMT 575 said:

Copenhagen 9 April 1940 06 AM
Social-Demokraten (Union Newspaper) headline:
”Strange events during the night – German Navy ships disappeared”

Berlingske Tidende (Conservative Newspaper) headline:
”Swedish sailing ship from Hälsingborg tell of no Railway station at Ferry Port”

Politiken (Social Liberal Newspaper) headline:
”Aurora borealis visible all over the country last night”

Land og Folk (Communist Newspaper) headline:
”Warship Niels Juel mobilized yesterday”

(OTL prior to Radio and the Internet news went off at 06 AM by the morning paper – then a late morning paper around 10 AM and then evening news around 3-4 PM; journalist's would wait out the night till 02 AM at the editors desk for late news to be able to fit them into the morning paper printing fra 02 – 04 AM; important news outside regular issues could be spread by flyers/leaflets)


Copenhagen 9 April 1940 08 AM
General Prior, Army Commander, and Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer, Navy Commander waited for their political head Minister of Defence Alsing-Andersen to arrive at Ministry of Defence.
The Commanders had already exchanged information about the situation and occasionally an Army or Navy Aide would show up with new signals.
A batch of Newspapers lay on the table separating their comfy chairs.

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer pointed at the Newspapers: ”If they knew it all it would be a sensation.”

General Prior: ”At least it already made headlines even if they don't have the full picture.”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”Do our Political Masters?”

General Prior: ”He-he.. Vice-Admiral.. please.. I didn't think of You as a joker.”

At 0810 AM Minister Alsing-Andersen arrived looking at the officers asking them to follow him into his Office and then sitting down saying ”so no hostilities initiated by Germany then?”

The General and Admiral looked at each other then General Prior said ”no not the 1940 Germany but it seems we are on the doorstep of war with Prussia and Austria of 1864.”

Alsing-Andersen: ”General I don't know You to be joking.”

General Prior: ”I'm not – let me and the Vice-Admiral” looking at Rechnitzer with a broad smile ”read You a number of Signals that have been received at Army and Navy Commands I assume You are already familiar with the major Newspaper headlines.”

Following several readings.. and lots of discussion on whats happening.

Alsing-Andersen: ”General, Vice-Admiral I really feel we ought to go to the Primeminister – if You wait I'll just have my Aide call his office stating our soon arrival.”

So the population are aware that something has happen, where news papers common in 1940 not only in the major cities but also the towns.

The population are aware that something have happened but really not what. Stream of news were very much controlled in those days except where reporters got something Government or Establishment couldn't control.

The first two headlines do show that something out of the ordinary is going on.

Remember the Communist's due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 24 August 1939 were Allies - hence its focus on military matters.

Also some servicemen couldn't keep their mouths shut.

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Primeminister Staunings office 0930 AM 9 April 1940
Stauning: ”Welcome – seems the Germans didn't do anything untowards us last night but I understand You have something urgent information for me Minister?”

Alsing-Andersen: ”Ehm well yes, I think it better to let the Commanders inform You of the Signals received by their Staffs this morning – General?”

Telephone ringing – Stauning: ”Excuse me – Yes.. What? - no ferry? Well thank You very much – yes I'll look into it, do inform me if anything comes up. Have a good day.”

Stauning: ”The Elsinore Chief of Police – the Ferry port at Hälsingborg is gone. Doktor Bohr was to arrive this morning by train from Oslo. There is no train on the Swedish side.”

Alsing-Andersen: ”Now I really think You ought to listen to the Military Commanders.”

General Prior: ”Primeminister the Danish Army of 1864 is in Slesvig awaiting the Prussian – Austrian onslaught. Today is 1 February it seems; if things go according to history tomorrow the Prussian Corps led by Crown Prince Frederick will attack at Mysunde and get repulsed. Then the day after the Austrians will attack the southern Danish Pickets that is essential to the defence of Dannevirke and throw the Danish Army back to that position. Then a day of waiting and then the Austrians will assault Dannevirke post the retreat of the Danish Army from the position; at great loss and defeat at Sankelmark – a beaten Danish Army will march up to Flensburg and then into Sundeved and Dybbøl. If we don't interfere; Primeminister! We must interfere! It is the life of hundreds of Danish troops.”

Stauning looked at the General and then at the Vice-Admiral who looked indifferent. Stauning knew the General but hadn't known him as well as his predessesor, General With. He also knew and respected the King; his Majesty would well like a stand against the Prussians and Austrians against HIS Army. Foremost the General his Majesty would love to hand the Germans a thrashing – mostly so the Prussians.

However Stauning had the fate of the country on his shoulders; he lauded the democratic process that had brought him into power – he couldn't just thow it away by acting despotic. Not councelling the other Parties. P. Munch and his Social Liberal Party – his Coalition Partner in Government - was strongly against military action being academecians they favoured diplomacy and negotiating though in 1864 there was no International Court to arbiter the Nations; P. Munch the Historian ought to know this simple fact.

Having heard out the General and Vice-Admiral Stauning then informed them that he wanted to call Foreign Minister P. Munch to the meeting – P. Munch being a Historian would know if these signals corresponded to the 1864 events.
At this both General and Vice-Admiral uttered that 1864 was the most debated and researched subject in Military History by Military Officers and both they and their Services were accurately versed in the subject and that and todays signals were just confirmation of known facts.

Stauning: ”Please, please – I know but P. Munch is also head of my Coalition Partner so have a right to be let in.”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”But of course Primeminister it is Your decision we are after all merely State servants.”

General Prior gave the Vice-Admiral a menacing look.
All then awaited the arrival of Foreing Minister P. Munch.

P.Munch having arrived at the meeting was of the opinion if this was so – being in 1864 and he questioned this though Stauning said he awaited the response to an inquirery with the Copenhagen University - he would serve the Nation best by going to plead the Danish cause with the German Confederation at Frankfurt a.M.
Which had much suppport by Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer.

Following more debate where Defence Minister Alsing-Andersen several times tried getting the attention of Stauning so as to get rid of the General and Vice-Admiral – but Stauning seemed intend of keeping the advisors present - Stauning said he was well with the proposal of the Forein Minister.
The Navy Airservice Dornier Wal would take P. Munch to Frankfurt a. M. landing on the Rhine as it would have the range to go there and return without refuelling. At this the Vice-Admiral was a little apprehensive as he was very well being overruled.

Stauning looked at the Vice-Admiral asking: ”Whats the alternative?”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”Ehm, well no. It is the one aircraft with the required range to go both directions on one fuelling. I'll let the Airservice prepare it taking off – when?”

General Prior: ”It is folly! Ask the King he will want the Army to support his loyal subjects against German invasion. It will be an attack on the Danish Army no matter what year we are talking. We must defend the country and best to do that in Slesvig! With the 1864 Army in place it would be a question of modern Artillery and Machineguns! Aircraft for spotting and bombing. We don't even need to move the entire Army south. The King however is Surpreme Commander!”

P. Munch: ”Easy now General Prior You well know its a technicality..”

Before the General exploded Stauning interfered: ”I'll call his Majesty later before lunch and explain the matter. General get in touch with General de Meza in whatever way possible and get his assessment to present to the King; what are our forces in Jutland?”

General Prior: ”From the South: at Tønder the AT-Engineers Regiment with one half-Battalion and the NCO-School; Søgaard Camp a Battalion of 4. Regiment; Sønderborg the Infantry NCO-School; Haderslev 2. Regiment with 1 Battalion, the Gun Company and a Field Artillery Battery; Fredericia 7. Regiment with 2 Battalions and Gun Company; Aarhus 3. Field Artillery Regiment with 3 Light and 1 Heavy Battalion, 14. AA-Battalion though Batteries in South Jutland; Randers Jutish Dragoons Regiment with 4 Squadrons including four Armoured Cars; Viborg Jutland Division, HQ 3. Regiment with one Battalion in Vendsyssel and Gun Company. All at about half strength and half of that is raw recruits. If – if we decide to call up the Covering Force demobilized three months ago we will be able to fill in units with trained men. That of course is not my decision.”

Stauning then looked at Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”The Navy?”

Rechnitzer: ”Without going into detail our most modern units are in Jutland ports; three Observation aircraft are on station in Jutland and in Fyn. Though the units on the East Coast are older units both have acted as Depot ships previously so give us a capacity to divert light units and Submarines if needed. Also all units will be able to outrun any enemy ship and most to outgun them.”

General Prior – looking at the Vice-Admiral: ”Well our Regimental Gun Companies and the Anti-Tank Engineers Regiments Cannon will in a 1864 context be rated heavy guns; they are highly mobile and much more accurate. It will be a force multiplier. Another - we lifted the 50.000 troops being mobilized from all over the country and brought into position on Sjaelland within eight hours during 5 August 1914! The regular train traffic didn't suffer much delay. This feat was repeated on 26 August 1939 by the call up of the Covering Force of 30,000. We can do it again. Also we won't need fear the air – we will be able to redeploy all the Air Squadrons to use all of our aircraft as light bombers. During the 1913 major call-up to train reserves in fall manoeuvres of the Army among the forces taking part was our couple of aircraft that would scout for the enemy. It was a success as the enemy won the game – the aircraft had proven its worth. That worth I want to utilize.” (this is almost 30 years prior to the Glider experimentation of Otto Lilienthal in Germany)

At the last P. Munch looked really horrified: ”I think I better get packed to go to Frankfurt a. M. - Vice-Admiral when will the aircraft be ready?”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”I'll have them work through the night to have it ready at 9 AM.”

Listening to the General and Vice-Admiral Stauning felt his thoughts of 1934 bubble up; resisting the Germans was much more a realistic option in this day and age even without allies.

P. Munch: ”One thing – very important. Whatever You do don't, don't enter Holstein that will make the whole of the German Confederation face us; might even off-set Austria. Remember Austria was reluctant to enter this debacle so we won't want them to become really hostile towards us.”

Stauning: ”I really agree to that. Foreign Minister we need to gather Parliament this evening and inform it of our decisions. We may have parlimentary majority but it will strengthen our position and frankly the Conservatives and Liberals will love it though the Nazi's will probably hate it as will the Slesvig Party.”

P. Munch: ”I'll inform the Party leaders while You inform his Majesty; 3 PM?”

Stauning: ”General, Vice-Admiral I can't let You at the moment call up any more troops however what have been decided will be carried out. Vice-Admiral I understand that the Niels Juel crew is mobilizing as is the Coastal Batteries?”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”I expect the Niels Juel to be ready to steam up late in the afternoon and it will take command of a Squadron in the Baltic of the older units. However I don't see Prussia and certainly not Austria challenging us at the moment.”

As the others were about to depart Stauning said: ”What about the West Indies? It is now our Colony again if I'm right?”

P. Munch: ”Right You are Primeminister – it will have reverted to our rule.”

Vice-Admiral Rechnitzer: ”The wooden build Screw Scooner Fylla (3 guns) on station in the West Indies, commander Kaptajnløjtnant (RN/USN Lieutenant) E. Krieger, 58 Officers and Men. The American Civil War is raging – CSA blockade runners and raiders may operate in the area but we didn't have much problems with these.”

Stauning: ”Let's end this meeting – P. Munch we meet at Parliament at 3 PM. General, Vice-Admiral prepare your units though don't start a war. Goverment is the instigater of war in a democratic society and we still are. If the covering force is to be called up we will decide at Parliament! No movement restrictions on any units.”

On his way out passing Stauning General Prior whispered: ”What made You certain about our displacement in time?”

Stauning: ”The missing of Doctor Bohr returning from Norway.”

General Prior: ”So there was somebody expecting his arrival at Elsinore Harbour?”

Stauning: ”But of course – would You expect anything else these days?”

General Prior: ”Customs officer? DSB (Danish State Railways) official?”

Stauning: ”I won't give it away but You know better than that and so did Your predessessor General With (former Intelligence Officer) – and I absolutely trust it.”

General Prior: ”Well I never would have thought.. With's legacy.. well I'm off have to catch up on recent reconnaisance reports.”

Stauning: ”Do relay anything important.”

General Prior: ”Of course Primeminister – right away.”

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Amalienborg Royal Palace 1130 AM
King Christian X: ”Ah Primeminister – I've been trying making some calls abroad. No connection anywhere it seems.”

Stauning: ”No sire; seems we have landed in February of 1864 according to Army and Navy reports and situation in Sweden – no train ferry at Elsinore.”

King Christian X: ”Any news of Dr. Bohr?”

Stauning: ”No sire. Which serve to convince me something out of the World have happened to us and our Nation.”

King Christian X: ”Are You calling up the reserves? If its 1864 the Austrians and Prussians will soon be on the doorstep. We have the means to repel them.”

Stauning: ”Sire; I have called for an emergency meeting at Parliament at 3 PM to discuss the situation. I expect a large majority to demand just such as You do and only my coalition partner and the Slesvig Party to oppose it. It may shatter Government which I deem unwanted at such a moment; a broad coalition will be possible though probably not survive War.”

King Christian X: ”You came alone – You are ready to act on Your own? I see Your hesitation but go on win the day!”

Stauning: ”Its not totally against myself but it will strain political partners.. I want to at least keep P. Munch as Plenipotentiery and send him to Frankfurt a. M. to the Imperial Diet to speak Your case as Duke of Slesvig-Holstein and Lauenburg. He should be able to claim and be bestowed exterritorial immunity for duration of stay. He will of course be given a radio and operators – Navy men - and a Secretary. If it works out we will have a line into the Imperial Diet. Actually I hope so.”

King Christian X: ”I see; very clever arrangement. So to disrupt Austro – Prussian relations on Wars conduct.”

Stauning: ”And politics no least. Chancellor Bismarck seems a very troublesome person. 1863 come to mind.”

King Christian X: ”At least he had to back down. Hmm, may buy valuable time when going to London.”

Stauning: ”Yes I'll have to find somebody to go there with a letter from Your Majesty, if You would find it appropriate Sire?”

King Christian X: ”Of course of course. This time at least we have time to find a proper white horse.”

Stauning, perplexed: ”Ehm.. ah, yes.. yes of course, of course. Thank You Sire. I shall take my leave to go to Christiansborg.”
(At the reunion with South Jutland/Nord Schleswig 1920 the King should according to an old prophesy ride across the border on a white horse; apparently no such would be found and so a horse was whitewashed – at least so the story goes..)

Stauning: ”By the way Sire I'm off to the State Radio Broadcast for the 12 o'clock news. I'm going to break the news to the Nation. Our peoples have a right to know.”

King Christian X: ”Our peoples – yes. I support You.”

Stauning: ”Thank You Sire, I will be off.”

(Stauning and King Christian X had since the Cabinet Crisis of Easter 1920 had much respect for each other)

[lordroel]

Feb 17, 2023 16:50:05 GMT 575 said:

Amalienborg Royal Palace 1130 AM
King Christian X: ”Ah Primeminister – I've been trying making some calls abroad. No connection anywhere it seems.”

Stauning: ”No sire; seems we have landed in February of 1864 according to Army and Navy reports and situation in Sweden – no train ferry at Elsinore.”

King Christian X: ”Any news of Dr. Bohr?”

Stauning: ”No sire. Which serve to convince me something out of the World have happened to us and our Nation.”

King Christian X: ”Are You calling up the reserves? If its 1864 the Austrians and Prussians will soon be on the doorstep. We have the means to repel them.”

Stauning: ”Sire; I have called for an emergency meeting at Parliament at 3 PM to discuss the situation. I expect a large majority to demand just such as You do and only my coalition partner and the Slesvig Party to oppose it. It may shatter Government which I deem unwanted at such a moment; a broad coalition will be possible though probably not survive War.”

King Christian X: ”You came alone – You are ready to act on Your own? I see Your hesitation but go on win the day!”

Stauning: ”Its not totally against myself but it will strain political partners.. I want to at least keep P. Munch as Plenipotentiery and send him to Frankfurt a. M. to the Imperial Diet to speak Your case as Duke of Slesvig-Holstein and Lauenburg. He should be able to claim and be bestowed exterritorial immunity for duration of stay. He will of course be given a radio and operators – Navy men - and a Secretary. If it works out we will have a line into the Imperial Diet. Actually I hope so.”

King Christian X: ”I see; very clever arrangement. So to disrupt Austro – Prussian relations on Wars conduct.”

Stauning: ”And politics no least. Chancellor Bismarck seems a very troublesome person. 1863 come to mind.”

King Christian X: ”At least he had to back down. Hmm, may buy valuable time when going to London.”

Stauning: ”Yes I'll have to find somebody to go there with a letter from Your Majesty, if You would find it appropriate Sire?”

King Christian X: ”Of course of course. This time at least we have time to find a proper white horse.”

Stauning, perplexed: ”Ehm.. ah, yes.. yes of course, of course. Thank You Sire. I shall take my leave to go to Christiansborg.”
(At the reunion with South Jutland/Nord Schleswig 1920 the King should according to an old prophesy ride across the border on a white horse; apparently no such would be found and so a horse was whitewashed – at least so the story goes..)

Stauning: ”By the way Sire I'm off to the State Radio Broadcast for the 12 o'clock news. I'm going to break the news to the Nation. Our peoples have a right to know.”

King Christian X: ”Our peoples – yes. I support You.”

Stauning: ”Thank You Sire, I will be off.”

(Stauning and King Christian X had since the Cabinet Crisis of Easter 1920 had much respect for each other)

Good idea, divide Prussia and Austria, think Austria is more willing to listen, especially when they hear about the Austro-Prussian War of 1866

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Feb 17, 2023 17:16:21 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 17, 2023 16:50:05 GMT 575 said:

Amalienborg Royal Palace 1130 AM
King Christian X: ”Ah Primeminister – I've been trying making some calls abroad. No connection anywhere it seems.”

Stauning: ”No sire; seems we have landed in February of 1864 according to Army and Navy reports and situation in Sweden – no train ferry at Elsinore.”

King Christian X: ”Any news of Dr. Bohr?”

Stauning: ”No sire. Which serve to convince me something out of the World have happened to us and our Nation.”

King Christian X: ”Are You calling up the reserves? If its 1864 the Austrians and Prussians will soon be on the doorstep. We have the means to repel them.”

Stauning: ”Sire; I have called for an emergency meeting at Parliament at 3 PM to discuss the situation. I expect a large majority to demand just such as You do and only my coalition partner and the Slesvig Party to oppose it. It may shatter Government which I deem unwanted at such a moment; a broad coalition will be possible though probably not survive War.”

King Christian X: ”You came alone – You are ready to act on Your own? I see Your hesitation but go on win the day!”

Stauning: ”Its not totally against myself but it will strain political partners.. I want to at least keep P. Munch as Plenipotentiery and send him to Frankfurt a. M. to the Imperial Diet to speak Your case as Duke of Slesvig-Holstein and Lauenburg. He should be able to claim and be bestowed exterritorial immunity for duration of stay. He will of course be given a radio and operators – Navy men - and a Secretary. If it works out we will have a line into the Imperial Diet. Actually I hope so.”

King Christian X: ”I see; very clever arrangement. So to disrupt Austro – Prussian relations on Wars conduct.”

Stauning: ”And politics no least. Chancellor Bismarck seems a very troublesome person. 1863 come to mind.”

King Christian X: ”At least he had to back down. Hmm, may buy valuable time when going to London.”

Stauning: ”Yes I'll have to find somebody to go there with a letter from Your Majesty, if You would find it appropriate Sire?”

King Christian X: ”Of course of course. This time at least we have time to find a proper white horse.”

Stauning, perplexed: ”Ehm.. ah, yes.. yes of course, of course. Thank You Sire. I shall take my leave to go to Christiansborg.”
(At the reunion with South Jutland/Nord Schleswig 1920 the King should according to an old prophesy ride across the border on a white horse; apparently no such would be found and so a horse was whitewashed – at least so the story goes..)

Stauning: ”By the way Sire I'm off to the State Radio Broadcast for the 12 o'clock news. I'm going to break the news to the Nation. Our peoples have a right to know.”

King Christian X: ”Our peoples – yes. I support You.”

Stauning: ”Thank You Sire, I will be off.”

(Stauning and King Christian X had since the Cabinet Crisis of Easter 1920 had much respect for each other)

Good idea, divide Prussia and Austria, think Austria is more willing to listen, especially when they hear about the Austro-Prussian War of 1866

Cheers; it must be tried. 1866 is specifically for Austria but the other German states may want to know about Bismarck's plans as such for a Prussian Germany.

[lordroel]

Feb 17, 2023 17:56:54 GMT 575 said:

Feb 17, 2023 17:16:21 GMT lordroel said:

Good idea, divide Prussia and Austria, think Austria is more willing to listen, especially when they hear about the Austro-Prussian War of 1866

Cheers; it must be tried. 1866 is specifically for Austria but the other German states may want to know about Bismarck's plans as such for a Prussian Germany.

Also what about all those foreign embassy's in Copenhagen, i am sure they will try to charter boats to go to their countries to inform everything that is going to happen in the 76 years to come.

[575]

Feb 17, 2023 18:02:12 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 17, 2023 17:56:54 GMT 575 said:

Cheers; it must be tried. 1866 is specifically for Austria but the other German states may want to know about Bismarck's plans as such for a Prussian Germany.

Also what about all those foreign embassy's in Copenhagen, i am sure they will try to charter boats to go to their countries to inform everything that is going to happen in the 76 years to come.

Well You will soon hear about one of those. Though as stevep wrote earlier some will be from countries that haven't been made yet - Poland for one. Norway. Albania. Just to mention some of them.

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State Radio Broadcast 12 AM 9 April 1940
Journalist: ”Dear listeners today the Primeminister is going to speak to You. You may have seen the Newspapers headlines of strange happenings since midnight. The Primeminister want to address the Nation about these matters. Primeminister.”

Stauning: ”I have grave news for all of You. The War was about to engulf Denmark yesterday but instead something else happened. Yes the Forces of Nazi-Germany was on our doorstep but some power greater than man wanted different. As we all awoke this morning the day had changed to 1 February 1864. It sounds fantastic but it has been confirmed from Sweden and Slesvig. The Prussian and Austrian Armies are on our doorstep – 76 years ago they were too; why this is so again today I do not know. I do know however that Denmark our country have the resources to repel the Invaders. Our military may be small but it is of high quality – this quality will carry us through. Though we may face hard times in which many will perish but we have friends in the Nordic countries of 1864. We must unite because only united will we prewail in the new situation that have become reality over night. This is not a time of selfishness or political seperatism – it is a time of Denmarks and the Danish Peoples. The King is aware of the situation and expect a correct and decent behavior of all to carry our country through these times.”

[stevep]

Feb 18, 2023 8:59:25 GMT 575 said:

State Radio Broadcast 12 AM 9 April 1940
Journalist: ”Dear listeners today the Primeminister is going to speak to You. You may have seen the Newspapers headlines of strange happenings since midnight. The Primeminister want to address the Nation about these matters. Primeminister.”

Stauning: ”I have grave news for all of You. The War was about to engulf Denmark yesterday but instead something else happened. Yes the Forces of Nazi-Germany was on our doorstep but some power greater than man wanted different. As we all awoke this morning the day had changed to 1 February 1864. It sounds fantastic but it has been confirmed from Sweden and Slesvig. The Prussian and Austrian Armies are on our doorstep – 76 years ago they were too; why this is so again today I do not know. I do know however that Denmark our country have the resources to repel the Invaders. Our military may be small but it is of high quality – this quality will carry us through. Though we may face hard times in which many will perish but we have friends in the Nordic countries of 1864. We must unite because only united will we prewail in the new situation that have become reality over night. This is not a time of selfishness or political seperatism – it is a time of Denmarks and the Danish Peoples. The King is aware of the situation and expect a correct and decent behavior of all to carry our country through these times.”

  I wonder if that comment is a reference to possibly a closer relationship with Sweden-Norway, which are unified themselves at this point?  Although given the technological gulf I suspect that the Swedes would be wary of any such ideas.  Some Norwegians might find the idea attractive given it might boost their chance for independence.

  Not just Austria and states such as Hanover which lost its independence after 1866.  Although it might be harder to believe news of what happened in 1814-18 is unlikely to make Prussia especially popular in the Russian empire or in Paris.  Mind you the news of Napoleon's defeat and the loss of Alsace-Lorraine in 1870-71 coupled with the bloodbath in the Great War could undermine his position as well.

[575]

Feb 18, 2023 15:05:29 GMT stevep said:

Feb 18, 2023 8:59:25 GMT 575 said:

State Radio Broadcast 12 AM 9 April 1940
Journalist: ”Dear listeners today the Primeminister is going to speak to You. You may have seen the Newspapers headlines of strange happenings since midnight. The Primeminister want to address the Nation about these matters. Primeminister.”

Stauning: ”I have grave news for all of You. The War was about to engulf Denmark yesterday but instead something else happened. Yes the Forces of Nazi-Germany was on our doorstep but some power greater than man wanted different. As we all awoke this morning the day had changed to 1 February 1864. It sounds fantastic but it has been confirmed from Sweden and Slesvig. The Prussian and Austrian Armies are on our doorstep – 76 years ago they were too; why this is so again today I do not know. I do know however that Denmark our country have the resources to repel the Invaders. Our military may be small but it is of high quality – this quality will carry us through. Though we may face hard times in which many will perish but we have friends in the Nordic countries of 1864. We must unite because only united will we prewail in the new situation that have become reality over night. This is not a time of selfishness or political seperatism – it is a time of Denmarks and the Danish Peoples. The King is aware of the situation and expect a correct and decent behavior of all to carry our country through these times.”

  I wonder if that comment is a reference to possibly a closer relationship with Sweden-Norway, which are unified themselves at this point?  Although given the technological gulf I suspect that the Swedes would be wary of any such ideas.  Some Norwegians might find the idea attractive given it might boost their chance for independence.

  Not just Austria and states such as Hanover which lost its independence after 1866.  Although it might be harder to believe news of what happened in 1814-18 is unlikely to make Prussia especially popular in the Russian empire or in Paris.  Mind you the news of Napoleon's defeat and the loss of Alsace-Lorraine in 1870-71 coupled with the bloodbath in the Great War could undermine his position as well.

Re Sweden-Norway that is just to remind the Danes that they do have friends just across the water - at least usually friends. The two are in Personal Union at the time and there are some issues to be related to but all in due time. (no its not gonna be rosy)

Oh anything regarding knowledge of future activity of Bismarck's ought to make any German ruler have second thoughts about the whole affair - problem will be to have them believe it. Need some battlefield reports but these are some days into the future.

I didn't give either Nap III or Great War much weigh in the 1914 to 1864 ISOT - thank You for reminding me. It is also in the future but there will be a Peace Conference at some time where such may be dissiminated.

[lordroel]

Feb 18, 2023 15:36:57 GMT 575 said:

Feb 18, 2023 15:05:29 GMT stevep said:

  I wonder if that comment is a reference to possibly a closer relationship with Sweden-Norway, which are unified themselves at this point?  Although given the technological gulf I suspect that the Swedes would be wary of any such ideas.  Some Norwegians might find the idea attractive given it might boost their chance for independence.

  Not just Austria and states such as Hanover which lost its independence after 1866.  Although it might be harder to believe news of what happened in 1814-18 is unlikely to make Prussia especially popular in the Russian empire or in Paris.  Mind you the news of Napoleon's defeat and the loss of Alsace-Lorraine in 1870-71 coupled with the bloodbath in the Great War could undermine his position as well.

Re Sweden-Norway that is just to remind the Danes that they do have friends just across the water - at least usually friends. The two are in Personal Union at the time and there are some issues to be related to but all in due time. (no its not gonna be rosy)

Oh anything regarding knowledge of future activity of Bismarck's ought to make any German ruler have second thoughts about the whole affair - problem will be to have them believe it. Need some battlefield reports but these are some days into the future.

I didn't give either Nap III or Great War much weigh in the 1914 to 1864 ISOT - thank You for reminding me. It is also in the future but there will be a Peace Conference at some time where such may be dissiminated.

Norway and Sweden have embassy's in Copenhagen in 1940, think the Norway ambassador to Denmark wants to get Norway independent some 41 years earlier, but i do not know of Sweden of 1864 wants that, unless they get something in return, maybe close relations with 1940 Denmark.

[575]

Feb 18, 2023 15:46:17 GMT lordroel said:

Feb 18, 2023 15:36:57 GMT 575 said:

Re Sweden-Norway that is just to remind the Danes that they do have friends just across the water - at least usually friends. The two are in Personal Union at the time and there are some issues to be related to but all in due time. (no its not gonna be rosy)

Oh anything regarding knowledge of future activity of Bismarck's ought to make any German ruler have second thoughts about the whole affair - problem will be to have them believe it. Need some battlefield reports but these are some days into the future.

I didn't give either Nap III or Great War much weigh in the 1914 to 1864 ISOT - thank You for reminding me. It is also in the future but there will be a Peace Conference at some time where such may be dissiminated.

Norway and Sweden have embassy's in Copenhagen in 1940, think the Norway ambassador to Denmark wants to get Norway independent some 41 years earlier, but i do not know of Sweden of 1864 wants that, unless they get something in return, maybe close relations with 1940 Denmark.

I'm quite certain the Norwegian Ambassador at the time Legate or Minister to Copenhagen would like to see an independent Norway however Sweden don't want such. We will get a little closer to the subject soon however.

Denmark really lack high quality iron and steel made from such - Sweden will be able to deliver. As Sweden and Norway have the looming shadow of Russia in the East they will want some tech to be able to stay free - need I say more?

[lordroel]

Feb 18, 2023 15:57:41 GMT 575 said:

Feb 18, 2023 15:46:17 GMT lordroel said:

Norway and Sweden have embassy's in Copenhagen in 1940, think the Norway ambassador to Denmark wants to get Norway independent some 41 years earlier, but i do not know of Sweden of 1864 wants that, unless they get something in return, maybe close relations with 1940 Denmark.

I'm quite certain the Norwegian Ambassador at the time Legate or Minister to Copenhagen would like to see an independent Norway however Sweden don't want such. We will get a little closer to the subject soon however.

Denmark really lack high quality iron and steel made from such - Sweden will be able to deliver. As Sweden and Norway have the looming shadow of Russia in the East they will want some tech to be able to stay free - need I say more?

Well i found that the United States Minister to Denmark at the time of the OTL German invasion of Denmark was Ray Atherton.

The British Minister to Denmark was Charles Howard Smith

And the Envoy of Norway to Denmark was August Esmarch