Presidents, PMs, Chancellors, General Secretaries and even Popes: Alternate lists of leaders

[lordroel]

Presidents, PMs, Chancellors, General Secretaries, Kings, Queens and even Popes: Alternate lists of leaders


List of United States presidents from 1900 to 2015

(24) Theodore Roosevelt: 1901-1909,Democrats.

(25) Howard Taft: 1909-1913, Democrats.

(26) Theodore Roosevelt: 1913-1921, Progressive Party.

(27) Robert LaTollette: 1921-29, Progressive Party.

(28) Herbert Hoover: 1929-1933,Democrats.

(29) Franklin Roosevelt: 1933-1945, Progressive Party.

(30) Harry Truman: 1945-1953, Progressive Party.

(31) Dwight Eisenhower: 1953-1961, Republican.

(32) John F Kennedy: 1961-1964, Democrats- died in office.

(33) Lyndon Johnston: 1964-1969, Democrats.

(34) Richard Nixon: 1969-1977, Republican.

(35) Gerald Ford: 1973-1981, Republican.

(36) Ronald Reagan: 1981-1989, Republican.

(37) George Bush: 1989-1993, Progressive Party.

(38) William Clinton: 1993-1997, Democrats.

(39) H. Ross Perot: 1997-2001, Reform Party of the United States of America.

(40) Al Gore: 2001-2009, Progressive Party.

(41) Barrack Obama: 2009-to current 2015,Progressive Party.

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List of Presidents of the United States of America (World of New Netherlands)

George Washington, 1789 to 1797.

John Adams, 1797 to 1801.

Thomas Jefferson, 1801 to 1809.

James Madison , 1809 to 1817.

James Monroe, 1817 to 1825.

Andrew Jackson, 1825 to 1837, only president to serve three terms in office.

Richard Mentor Johnson, 1837 to 1841.

William Henry Harrison , 1841, died in office.

John Tyler, 1841 to 1845.

James Knox Polk, 1845 to 1849.

Zachary Taylor, 1849 to 1850, died in office.

James Buchanan, Jr, 1850 to 1853.

Lewis Cass, 1853 to 1857.

James Buchanan, 1857 to 1861.

Abraham Lincoln, 1861 to 1865, was assassinated while in office.

Andrew Johnson, 1865 to 1869.

Ulysses Simpson Grant, 1869 to 1877.

Rutherford Birchard Hayes, 1877 to 1881.

Winfield Hancock, 1881 to 1885.

James G. Blaine, 1885 to 1889.

Benjamin Harrison, 1889 to 1897.

William Jennings Bryan, 1897 to 1901.

William McKinley, Jr., 1901 to 1909.

William Howard Taft, 1909 to 1913.

Woodrow Wilson, 1913 to 1921.

Warren G. Harding , 1921 to 1923, died in office and was succeed by his vice-president Irvine Luther Lenroot.

Irvine Luther Lenroot , 1923 to 1924 , lost elections in the United States presidential election of 1924.

John William Davis , 1924 to 1928.

Herbert Clark Hoover, 1929 to 1937.

Alf Landon, 1937 to 1940, current president of the United States of America. His vice president is Frank Knox.

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List of Director-Generals and Prime Ministers of New Netherlands (World of New Netherlands)

Director General

Cornelis Jacobszoon, 1624 to 1625.

Willem Verhulst, 1625 to 1626.

Peter Minuit, 1626 to 1632.

Sebastiaen Jansen Krol , 1632 to 1633.

Wouter van Twiller, 1633 to 1638.

Willem Kieft, 1638 to 1647.

Petrus Stuyvesant, 1647 to 1672, died in office.

Cornelis Jacobsz Steenwijck, 1672 to 1680.

Albert Janse Ryckman, 1680 to 1690, first person born in the colony of New Netherland to be made Director-General of New Netherlands.

Abraham van Vredenburg 1690 to 1705, served first as Governor of Netherlands-Suriname.

Paul van der Veen Doens, 1705 to 1715.

Pieter Van Brugh, 1723 to 1728.

Francis Anthonie de Rayneval, 1728 to 1738, served first as Governor of Netherlands-Suriname.

Cortlandt Skinner, 1754 to 1771, was twenty-seven when he became Director-General of New Netherlands.

Peter Van Brugh Livingston, 1771 to 1777.

Pierre Van Cortlandt, 1777 to 1795 was the last Director General, offices replaced by that of Prime Minster.

Prime Ministers

When Napoleon Bonaparte seized the Netherlands in 1795, Director-General Pierre Van Cortlandt assumed administrative control of the colonies of New Netherlands and when the Kingdom of New Netherlands was proclaimed the office of Director General was replaced by that of prime minster.

Stephen Van Rensselaer, 1795 to 1803, first Prime minster of the Kingdom of New Netherlands, serving two terms.

Jeremiah Van Rensselaer, 1803 to 1810, died in office during his third term.

DeWitt Clinton, 1810 to 1818, was elected into office in a special election.

Herman Knickerbocker, 1818 to 1826, served two terms in office.

Martin Van Buren, 1837 to 1857, first Prime minster to serve five terms in office.

Robert Campbell, 1857 to 1861, first Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Charles Benedict Calvert, 1861 to 1865, second Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Schuyler Colfax, 1865 to 1877, served three terms in office.

Theodore Fitz Randolph, 1877 to 1885, served two terms in office.

Leon Abbett, 1885 to 1889, third Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

George Craig Ludlow, 1889 to 1897, served two terms in office.

Theodore Roosevelt, 1897 to 1918, second Prime minster to serve five terms in office.

M. William Bray, 1918 to 1922, fourth Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Robert F. Wagner, 1922 to 1930, served two terms in office.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1930 to 1940, the current Prime minster of New Netherlands, now in his third term in office.

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List of Presidents of the Republic of Texas (World of New Netherlands)

The authority and responsibilities of the President of the Republic of Texas is similar to that of the President of the United States; to serve the people of Texas, and to serve as the head of the military and the state, and which is detailed in the Constitution of the Republic of Texas of 1836. The Constitution specifies a term of two years for the first elected President (Sam Houston) and terms of three years thereafter; the President cannot succeed himself, but there are otherwise no term limits. The President is elected separately from the Vice-President, by popular vote, and there is no requirement to be native-born.

1st David G. Burnet, March 16th 1836 to October 22nd 1836.

2nd Sam Houston, 1836 to 1838, constitution specified a term of two years for the first elected President.

3rd Mirabeau B. Lamar, 1838 to 1841.

4th Sam Houston, 1841 to 1844, second term as president.

5th Anson Jones, 1844 to 1846.

6th Sam Houston, 1846 to 1849, third term as president.

7th John Alexander Greer, 1849 to 1851.

8th James Wilson Henderson, 1851 to 1854.

9th Elisha Marshall Pease, 1854 to 1857.

10th Sam Houston, 1857 to 1860, fourth term as president.

11th Edward Clark 1860 to 1863.

12th Francis Richard Lubbock, 1863 to 1866.

13th Elisha Marshall Pease, 1866 to 1869, second term as president.

14th Hardin Richard Runnels, 1869 to 1871.

15th Richard Coke, 1871 to 1873.

16th Richard B. Hubbard, 1873 to 1875.

17th Oran Milo Roberts, 1875 to 1877.

18th Richard Coke, 1877 to 1879, second term as president.

19th John Ireland, 1879 to 1881.

20th Lawrence Sullivan Ross, 1881 to 1893.

21st James Stephen Hogg, 1893 to 1895.

22nd George Cassety Pendleton, 1895 to 1897.

23rd Joseph D. Sayers, 1897 to 1899.

24th James Nathan Browning, 1899 to 1902.

25th Thomas Mitchell Campbell, 1902 to 1905.

26th Oscar Branch Colquitt, 1905 to 1908.

27th Thomas Mitchell Campbell, 1908 to 1911, second term as president.

28th Oscar Branch Colquitt, 1911 to 1914, second term as president.

29th James E. Ferguson, 1914 to 1917.

30th William P. Hobby Sr, 1917 to 1920.

31st Pat Morris Neff, 1920 to 1923.

32nd Thomas Whitfield Davidson, 1923 to 1926.

33rd Dan Moody, 1926 to 1929.

34th Ross S. Sterling, 1929 to 1932.

35th Edgar E. Witt, 1932 to 1935.

36th James V. Allred, 1935 to 1939.

37th Coke R. Stevenson, 1939 to 1940, current President of the Republic of Texas.

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From a SW project I did on AH.com:

31. Herbert Hoover (Republican) 1929-1933

32. John Nance Garner (Democrat) 1933-1937

33. Huey Long (D) 1937-1943

Vacant 1943-1947

34. Douglas MacArthur (Constitution) 1947-1953*

35. Harry Truman (D) 1953-1957

36. Earl Warren (Liberal) 1957-1959**

37. Harold Stassen (L) 1959-1961

38. John F. Kennedy (Kennedy) 1961-1965

38. Richard Nixon (Conservative) 1965-1973

39. Ed Muskie (D) 1973-1974

40. George Wallace (State's Rights) 1974

41. Carl Albert (State's Rights) 1974

42. Gerald Ford (C) 1974-1977

43. Robert F. Kennedy (K) 1977-1980**

43. John Glenn (K) 1980-1981

45. Ted Kennedy (K) 1981-1985***

46. George Bush (L) 1985-1993

47. H. Ross Perot (L) 1993-1997

*provisional president 1947-1949, elected in 1949. Constitution Party disbanded after his term.

**died in office

***Kennedy Party disbanded after his term.

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Alternate Presidents of the US
One termers since 1988
George H W Bush(1989-1993)Republican
Bill Clinton(1993-1997)Democratic
Bob Dole(1997-2001)Republican
Bill Bradley(2001-2005)Democratic
Jeb Bush(2005-2009)Republican
Mark Warner(2009-2013)Democratic
George Allen(2013-)Republican

[lordroel]

Mar 27, 2016 20:11:43 GMT pericles said:

Alternate Presidents of the US
One termers since 1988
George H W Bush(1989-1993)Republican
Bill Clinton(1993-1997)Democratic
Bob Dole(1997-2001)Republican
Bill Bradley(2001-2005)Democratic
Jeb Bush(2005-2009)Republican
Mark Warner(2009-2013)Democratic
George Allen(2013-)Republican

Would that be Possible to have 7 presidents serve only one term.

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Mar 27, 2016 20:15:24 GMT lordroel said:

Mar 27, 2016 20:11:43 GMT pericles said:

Alternate Presidents of the US
One termers since 1988
George H W Bush(1989-1993)Republican
Bill Clinton(1993-1997)Democratic
Bob Dole(1997-2001)Republican
Bill Bradley(2001-2005)Democratic
Jeb Bush(2005-2009)Republican
Mark Warner(2009-2013)Democratic
George Allen(2013-)Republican

Would that be Possible to have 7 presidents serve only one term.

Pretty unlikely but it could be done. Bush is toppled due to bad economy as per IOTL. Clinton never fully recovers from the Republican Revolution, 1996 goes to House and Dole wins. Dole is wounded because he lost PV and then Gingrich's cuts to social programs prove unpopular, plus he fails to connect with the public. Bradley is seen as weak on terrorism and the economy is weak. Jeb has the economy crash on him and Trump runs as an Independent. Warner has gridlock and can't get the economy better so Allen beats him. By then the public would be pretty pissed and so we could see a third-party victory. 

Up next, alternate New Zealand PMs

[lordroel]

Mar 27, 2016 20:24:01 GMT pericles said:

Mar 27, 2016 20:15:24 GMT lordroel said:

Would that be Possible to have 7 presidents serve only one term.

Pretty unlikely but it could be done. Bush is toppled due to bad economy as per IOTL. Clinton never fully recovers from the Republican Revolution, 1996 goes to House and Dole wins. Dole is wounded because he lost PV and then Gingrich's cuts to social programs prove unpopular, plus he fails to connect with the public. Bradley is seen as weak on terrorism and the economy is weak. Jeb has the economy crash on him and Trump runs as an Independent. Warner has gridlock and can't get the economy better so Allen beats him. By then the public would be pretty pissed and so we could see a third-party victory. 

Up next, alternate New Zealand PMs

Thanks for the explanation.

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For Want of a Referendum(this is a TL idea)
Jim Bolger(1990-2001)National
Jenny Shipley(2001-2003)National
Steve Maharey(2003-2009)Labour
Judith Collins(2009-2015)National
Grant Robertson(2015-)Labour

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New Zealand never has electoral reform because David Lange never accidentally promises a referendum on it so reform never gains much impetus. New zealand stays under 2-party First Past the Post. In the 1993 election, NZ has a hung parliament, with National reduced from the biggest landslide in history to minority government. A 1994 election is called, which Bolger wins against new Labour leader Helen Clark. National continues to implement neoliberal reforms to the economy, while Labour becomes divided. Former leader Mike Moore returns for 1997, but is beaten easily. The same happens in 2000. Bolger retires in 2001 and is succeeded by Jenny Shipley. However by now the public wants change, and New Zealand's entry into the Iraq War increases that desire. New Labour leader Steve Maharey, despite controversies over his temper, wins in a landslide in 2003. Maharey withdraws from Iraq, and angers Labour's Maori supporters with a Foreshore & Seabed Act that is more in favor of the Pakeha. maharey governs as a New Zealand Blairite, and the result is despite anger on the left he wins another landslide in 2006. By 2009, the economy is struggling with the global financial crisis. In 2009, the left splits in two, with the Greens posing a major threat to Labour while a resurgent National with attack-dog leader Judith Collins demolishes Maharey. After a bitter election National is returned to power. However in power Collins does less of a stimulus than IOTL and the economy continues to struggle. She wins a narrow victory in 2012 over David Cunliffe but in 2015, a united left under Grant Robertson fells her. Still, New Zealand's democracy, and all that governs, are far less healthy without MMP and instead FPP.

[lordroel]

Mar 27, 2016 20:50:33 GMT pericles said:

For Want of a Referendum(this is a TL idea)
Jim Bolger(1990-2001)National
Jenny Shipley(2001-2003)National
Steve Maharey(2003-2009)Labour
Judith Collins(2009-2015)National
Grant Robertson(2015-)Labour

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New Zealand never has electoral reform because David Lange never accidentally promises a referendum on it so reform never gains much impetus. New zealand stays under 2-party First Past the Post. In the 1993 election, NZ has a hung parliament, with National reduced from the biggest landslide in history to minority government. A 1994 election is called, which Bolger wins against new Labour leader Helen Clark. National continues to implement neoliberal reforms to the economy, while Labour becomes divided. Former leader Mike Moore returns for 1997, but is beaten easily. The same happens in 2000. Bolger retires in 2001 and is succeeded by Jenny Shipley. However by now the public wants change, and New Zealand's entry into the Iraq War increases that desire. New Labour leader Steve Maharey, despite controversies over his temper, wins in a landslide in 2003. Maharey withdraws from Iraq, and angers Labour's Maori supporters with a Foreshore & Seabed Act that is more in favor of the Pakeha. maharey governs as a New Zealand Blairite, and the result is despite anger on the left he wins another landslide in 2006. By 2009, the economy is struggling with the global financial crisis. In 2009, the left splits in two, with the Greens posing a major threat to Labour while a resurgent National with attack-dog leader Judith Collins demolishes Maharey. After a bitter election National is returned to power. However in power Collins does less of a stimulus than IOTL and the economy continues to struggle. She wins a narrow victory in 2012 over David Cunliffe but in 2015, a united left under Grant Robertson fells her. Still, New Zealand's democracy, and all that governs, are far less healthy without MMP and instead FPP.

Nice list, if you would place the list of Australian Prime Minister of the past five years (Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd second time, Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull who is current) your list of five PMs in a period of 15 years make New Zealand more stable.  

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What if no Vietnam War?
LBJ(1963-1971)Democratic*
Hubert Humphrey(1971-1976)Democratic**
Howard Baker(1976-1981)Republican***
Bob Dole(1981-1985)Republican
Bruce Babbitt(1985-1993)Democratic
Tom Kean(1993-2001)Republican
Dick Gephardt(2001-2002)Democratic****
Bob Graham(2002-2009)Democratic
Tom Daschle(2009-2013)Democratic
John Kasich(2013-)Republican

*Died in office
**Resigned due to cancer
***Assassinated
****Died in plane crash, another victim of Tecumseh's curse

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US Presidents-each party keeps power in 16 year spurts
Dwight Eisenhower(1953-1961)Republican
Richard Nixon(1961-1969)Republican
Hubert Humphrey(1969-1977)Democratic
John Connally(1977-1985)Democratic
John B Anderson(1985-1993)Republican
Tom Kean(1993-2001)Republican
Paul Wellstone(2001-2002)Democratic
Sam Nunn(2002-2009)Democratic
Wesley Clark(2009-)Democratic

In 1960, Nixon wins. Bay of Pigs goes better, avoiding the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Vietnam War is avoided, with US support for South Vietnam not being to OTL's extent. Nixon beats LBJ in 1964, but the civil rights movement dominates his second term. In 1965, Nixon proposes a Civil Rights Act to Congress, but congressional Democrats, with no LBJ treatment, hold it up. Meanwhile riots begin to envelop major cities and low-level violence becomes commonplace in the South. In 1966, Nixon tries to get Republicans elected in the midterms to get a mandate for civil rights, but it fails abysmally. His presidency ends with racial tension and violence reaching shocking heights. In 1968, the Democrats nominate liberal Hubert Humphrey, splitting the party as George Wallace and the southern wing form a third-party, the American Independent Party(AIP). Despite this Humphrey wins a narrow victory over Henry Cabot Lodge.
Humphrey's presidency sees Congress finally pass civil rights. In 1972 he beats Nelson Rockefeller but the economy promptly crashes due to the oil crisis and Republicans take Congress in 1974. Still, in 1976 Humphrey's VP Connally beats conservative Barry Goldwater, tarring him as an extremist. In 1980 the economy has begun to recover, but it seems Connally is likely to be defeated again, having a mediocre(at best) presidency. However the GOP splits in two and has a brokered convention, resulting in Gerald Ford being nominated in a compromise. Connally narrowly beats Ford, carrying most of the South. In 1984 though, while the economy has finally recovered swing voters are ready to abandon the Democrats en masse and fears of communism are strong. Anderson wins in a landslide, and then again in 1988. In 1992 New Jersey Governor Tom Kean wins, defeating Al Gore, who struggles to prove he would be tough enough on the Soviet Union, which has recently reformed under Premier Romanov. Kean wins again in 1996 when Democrats nominate Jesse Jackson. 
In 2000, liberal Paul Wellstone wins big as the economy plummets into a deep recession after years of growth and America is bogged down in a war in Jordan against a new communist regime. Wellstone has a dovish foreign policy and passes a big economic stimulus bill, but days before the 2002 midterms is killed in a plane crash. His VP, Nunn, takes over and Nunn is more hawkish. Nunn wins by a landslide in 2004 but his presidency ends with a war in Sudan as US intervention there backfires. General Wesley Clark is elected, ends the Sudan War and manages to pass single-payer healthcare through Congress. The economy goes into a recession in 2012, so the 2012 election goes to the House, where Clark beats Republican nominee former House Speaker John Kasich. Clark's second term sees gridlock, economic troubles and struggles to deal with a rising USSR. Former Connecticut Senator Hillary Bush(Hillary Clinton married Jeb Bush TTL) looks set to win the presidency over Evan Byah after securing the GOP nomination easily while Bayh struggles with a leftward challenge from California Governor Jerry Brown and a rightward one from Joe Manchin. Many believe the Democrats are headed for a brokered convention. But whatvere they're headed for, 16 years in power is about to end, as it always does.

[James G]

It's the economy, stupid!
American Presidents


George H. W. Bush / Dan Quayle [R] 1989-1993
(def. Dukakis/Bentsen [D])

Bush and Quayle inherited Reagan's good times and presided over peace in the Middle East when war threatened in mid 1990.
They were then at the helm when the domestic economy took an unexpected turn for the worse later that year.
Domestically, Bush was out of his league: foreign policy was his big deal. Quayle... was just that not-so-bright guy from where?


Mario Cuomo / Bob Graham [D] 1993-2001
(def. Bush/Quayle [R], 1992)
(def. Pete Wilson/Richard Lugar [R], 1996)

Cuomo was the dream president for many Americans and gave them what they wanted: peace and prosperity.
The 90s were the good times.
Unchallenged, Pax Americana tried it best in a brave new world and while it didn't always work, no disasters happened too. The world looked to America for leadership and Cuomo gave it.


John McCain / John Ashcroft [R] 2001-2005
(def. Graham/Bob Kerrey [D])

McCain got the blame when it all went wrong. The economy tanked a year in. Poor McCain had no control over that and inherited what he got left.
The American people didn't care: it was their savings and their homes at risk.
Scandals rocked the last two years of the McCain Administration and the voters had had enough of everything. Goodbye.

[James G]

Three B*stards Out There... and winning - A list of alternate British PMs

John Major (Cons.) 1990 to 1995
Conservative prime minister who replaced Thatcher. A temperamental man in private (also allegedly a rather passionate one too!) who had problems within his own party over Europe. Major was annoyed with the three b*stards from his Cabinet. He challenged his fellow MPs to beat him for the leadership: one did.

Peter Lilley (Cons.) 1995 to 1997
[B*stard #1]
His fellow MPs lost their minds in voting for Lilley. Boy, did they regret it. He seemed determined to bring the party down and the mood of the nation - those damn 'chattering classes' especially - wasn't something he cared about. Lilley lead the Conservatives to win just 163 seats in '97.

Tony Blair (Lab.) 1997 to 2003
Tony: enough said. Took his case to the country after a vote on the Iraq War went wrong and his party was split. It was a matter of principle, a stupid hill to die on.

Michael Portillo (Cons.) 2003
[B*stard #2]
Portillo did the impossible and won a return to power for his party. This was after losing his seat in '97 too in an infamous upset but turning everything around within a few years. The Conservatives were meant to be out of office for a generation: he proved that wrong. A bad ticker done him in though, the stress of the job brought that on and not those rumours about his private past. He died at his desk in Downing Street.

Michael Howard (Cons.) 2003 to 2006
[B*stard #3]
The supposed saviour of the party. He was meant to smooth over issues with Europe and extend the tiny majority the Conservatives held at an election on his timescale at the most opportune moment. Labour collapsed in the polls and Howard gambled. He thought he knew what he was doing yet ran a terrible campaign. No one knew how he buggered that all up.

Alan Johnson (Lab.) 2006 to ??.??
The People's Prime Minister. He united his party with the message of getting the Tories out and beat Howard with a comfortable majority of more than fifty seats overall. Relations with the EU got a sticky plaster though because there were challenges even the softly-spoken political giant that was Johnson couldn't overcome.